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Dahoss 06-09-2020 10:16 AM

I’m laughing again

Dahoss 06-09-2020 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1139115)
They are playing the game that the Kentucky Derby is the only race that matters. Of course, if he does win the Derby he will almost assuredly retire at year's end after 1 or 2 more starts. When you think about what racing would be like if every participant in the sport campaigned their top horses in this way, you realize that it doesn't take a pandemic to create spectator-less racing...

Meanwhile, to your other point, Maxfield has not breezed back since his Matt Winn comeback, which is going on 17 days now. He breezed back from each of his two baby races within 2 weeks. He had to have surgery after only those 2 starts. Maybe the real story is that his quest towards the Kentucky Derby is less assured than we realize.

You’re probably on to something with why they are really not running in the Belmont.

I just read they plan to breeze in the next few days “depending on the weather.” And that he’s “been doing great since he ran, just super,” according to Walsh.

I wish reporters could actually ask trainers questions like why hasn’t he breezed in 17 days if he’s doing super, but that’s a whole other conversation.

If he’s really doing super and they are purposely avoiding a triple crown race where he’s second choice at worst...it makes no sense. Especially with a horse who has made 3 lifetime starts midway through his 3 year old season.

moses 06-10-2020 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1139120)
You’re probably on to something with why they are really not running in the Belmont.

I just read they plan to breeze in the next few days “depending on the weather.” And that he’s “been doing great since he ran, just super,” according to Walsh.

I wish reporters could actually ask trainers questions like why hasn’t he breezed in 17 days if he’s doing super, but that’s a whole other conversation.

If he’s really doing super and they are purposely avoiding a triple crown race where he’s second choice at worst...it makes no sense. Especially with a horse who has made 3 lifetime starts midway through his 3 year old season.

Hearing that Maxfield is out.

robfla 06-10-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1139128)
Hearing that Maxfield is out.

non-life-threatening condylar fracture of his right front cannon bone

https://twitter.com/DRFMcGee/status/1270717152471838722

Kasept 06-10-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1139128)
Hearing that Maxfield is out.

Marty McGee ~ @DRFMcGee: Maxfield is OUT of the #KyDerby after suffering a non-life-threatening condylar fracture of his right front cannon bone following a breeze at #Keeneland, per @brenpwalsh and Jimmy Bell of @godolphin. Colt to undergo surgery with Dr. Larry Bramlage today. Walsh: "Devastating."

Dahoss 06-10-2020 09:31 AM

Hmmm...

Kasept 06-10-2020 09:42 AM

And, Wells Bayou out with bone bruising..

knickslions2 06-10-2020 11:34 AM

Dropping like flies. That Gulfstream 9th race today may have at least three in derby now

Alabama Stakes 06-10-2020 12:20 PM

They should call it the Wood at Belmont, and make the Belmont later in the year.

cakes44 06-10-2020 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1139086)
6/20 (BEL): Belmont Stakes (9f) 150-60-30-15

Tiz the Law (Tagg)
Tap It to Win (Casse
Sole Volante (Biancone)
Basin (Asmussen)
Farmington Road (Pletcher)
Dr. Post (Pletcher)
Max Player (Rice)
Modernist (Mott)

Will be interesting if Sole Volante will run back next weekend after running today. He looked good, not great. Not a bunch of killers in this group other than Tiz the Law though.

gamblin4ever 06-11-2020 12:17 PM

Hope Max Player runs well.
Has Linda Rice ever had a horse run in the triple crown?

RolloTomasi 06-12-2020 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gamblin4ever (Post 1139178)
Hope Max Player runs well.
Has Linda Rice ever had a horse run in the triple crown?

Kid Cruz, 2014 Preakness

Kasept 06-15-2020 12:04 PM

BELMONT STAKES

Tiz the Law (Manny Franco/Barclay Tagg)
Sole Volante (Luca Panici/Patrick Biancone)
Dr Post (Irad Ortiz Jr./Todd Pletcher)
Farmington Road (Javier Castellano/Todd Pletcher)
Max Player (Joel Rosario/Linda Rice)
Tap It to Win (John Velazquez/Mark Casse)
Pneumatic (Ricardo Santana Jr./Steve Asmussen)
Jungle Runner (Reylu Gutierrez/Steve Asmussen)
Modernist (Junior Alvarado/Bill Mott)
Fore Left (Jose Ortiz/Doug O'Neill)

RolloTomasi 06-15-2020 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1139314)
Modernist (Bill Mott)

Why is a horse like Modernist, a well-bred major winner in seemingly good form based on a strong workout at Belmont still on the fence for this race?

Is the owner holding out for an appearance fee or something?

Kasept 06-15-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1139315)
Why is a horse like Modernist, a well-bred major winner in seemingly good form based on a strong workout at Belmont still on the fence for this race?

Is the owner holding out for an appearance fee or something?

Was a strange quote from Mott.. "Thinking Ohio Derby but he worked so well.."

moses 06-15-2020 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1139315)
Why is a horse like Modernist, a well-bred major winner in seemingly good form based on a strong workout at Belmont still on the fence for this race?

Is the owner holding out for an appearance fee or something?

It makes little sense. I’m confused why a $1 million 9 furlong race has only drawn 8 entries.

RolloTomasi 06-15-2020 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1139316)
Was a strange quote from Mott.. "Thinking Ohio Derby but he worked so well.."

Well at least there's a plausible alternative (that only made sense a couple weeks ago when the Belmont was loaded) as opposed to waiting for races 5 weeks down the road (Blue Grass, Haskell).

Not that I advocate or worry about these things, but if Modernist's connections are interested in solidifying the horse's stallion resume (and they ought to with his deep bloodlines) they wouldn't have to worry ever again if he could spring the upset on Saturday.

As far as I know, breeders, consignors, bloodstock agents, and buyers don't put an asterisks on black type from western Canada, Puerto Rico, or the Midwest so I doubt there will be one for the 2020 Belmont Stakes...

Kasept 06-16-2020 07:57 PM

Fore Left (O'Neill) added to Belmont from Woody Stephens..

knickslions2 06-17-2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1139345)
Fore Left (O'Neill) added to Belmont from Woody Stephens..

I think this is a great addition!!

Kasept 06-17-2020 11:11 AM



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