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Danzig 11-06-2006 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

Shake Mo wants a foundation dirt sire for his attempt to win as many American classics and Triple Crowns as he can, and now he has the foundation. Simple.

What irks me is the notion of Shake Mo as a "sportsman" and lover of the breed.

looks like something i posted MONTHS ago about this very thing happening.
but good news, invasor remains in training.
everyone has been calling the wrong sheik a sportsman.

Danzig 11-06-2006 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Henny Hughes has been retired??????????? That's insane. What has he proven?

They're the worst!

oh, thought you knew that too. i didn't even snort when i read the article. no surprise at all. now, had they both stayed on the track, i'd have had a heart attack....

but hey, we have discreet cat to look forward to next year. maybe he can run half a dozen times over the course of the year and go to stud too. hot dog!!

Danzig 11-06-2006 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Balletto
So, I guess anyone with seemingly unlimited financial means should not look at anything from a business perspective. They should just spend and not worry about attempting to possibly break even or succeed if something is a business. Then again, im sure its easier said than done when its not your money.

And your whole "horse racing is cruel" cry at countering what I originally stated is rather old. Granted, you were playing Devil's Advocate, but give me a break. If you wanted to sensationalize the sport, why stop there? Lets all hunt our food because lord knows, we shouldnt breed our food.

Here's an interesting tidbit for you... In a genetics class we learned that horses would be extinct right now if it wasnt for human prevention/interaction. There is not one truly wild herd of horses left on the planet. Anything that is wild has come from domesticated stock at one time or another. The horse, as we know it, is not an animal that evolution has been kind to... its why these animals, especially thoroughbreds, seem to find ways to kill themselves.

Regardless, throw your fits, bash the sport, claim you're a fan of the racing and not the breeding, but its a symbiotic relationship that is always seeking a balance. Right now, the balance is in a good financial state... even though most claim its not kind to fans. In that case, find a gelding and bat your eyes away... or better yet, enter the sport so we can all comment on your decisions as an owner, I mean, the sport is built around us, right???

c'mon balletto...the guy spent almost $60 million at ONE sale alone. doesn't sound like he's trying to break even, or is concerned in any way about being in the black years' end if he's tossing around that kind of money.

blackthroatedwind 11-06-2006 05:16 PM

I am honestly shocked about Henny Hughes. How could they retire him. He has barely raced and accomplished very little for a sprinter. I don't know a lot about breeding but I fail to see his appeal.

Maybe they just wanted to prove conclusively that they have no interest in racing.

Danzig 11-06-2006 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Maybe he's just anxious to see the "Bernie's Babies" hit the track.

Maybe the cost to insure him ($3 mil? $5 mil?) for a year without a realistic chance to earn that much on the track coupled with the chance of a catastrophic breakdown plus the desire to get him going as a stallion makes it a more palatable decision.

It ain't likely about the money. Probably the chance of him getting injured or worse is more important to the owner than it would be to most other people.

if a lumberman can dig deep to run slew at four...you really think a guy tossing money around like he grew it in his backyard can't?? then there's the meyerhoffs who ran the bid at four. silver charm, real quiet, they ran at four...but of course when horses stick around, it's because the sales #'s are down. there is a direct correlation between the breeding market and whether a horse sticks around to run or not....right now, $ is flying thru the air at a dizzying rate at these sales....everyone is trying to pile on. and as long as these guys with oil money to burn are willing to indulge themselves, it'll continue. as will premature retirements.

SentToStud 11-06-2006 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
Shouldn't "SentToStud" have started this thread?

been really busy tending to the herd of goats, etc... but thanks for the shout out.

Danzig 11-06-2006 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I am honestly shocked about Henny Hughes. How could they retire him. He has barely raced and accomplished very little for a sprinter. I don't know a lot about breeding but I fail to see his appeal.

Maybe they just wanted to prove conclusively that they have no interest in racing.

trying to latch onto the hennessy/jo'burg wagon....


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