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Sightseek 12-16-2012 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 906975)
I think Invasor could be as high as #3.

He was a power plodder and I definitely don't think he was as talented as Medaglia D' Oro or Congaree ... but his resume was in fact clearly better.

Some of his Grade 1 wins were over soft competition.

In the Pimlico Special, Wanderin Boy was 4/5 and Harlington 2/1.

In the Suburban, Wild Dessert and Andromidea's Hero were 2nd and 3rd.

In the Whitney, Sun King, West Virginia, and We Can Seek made up the 2 through 4 finishers.

In the Donn, Hesanoldsalt, and A. P Arrow were 2nd and 3rd.

Don't get me wrong, Invasor was an outstanding horse with a great resume ... but he won some very soft Gr 1's and his BC Classic win came in a fast paced 10f race that suits his power plodding style ... and his chief rival Bernardini (who I tried to beat) was the victim of a pretty terrible ride.

I still get excited watching that Whitney Stakes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW1331dchn8

Premium Tap was rounding into a decent horse. Wow was Flower Alley terrible as a 4 year old.

dalakhani 12-16-2012 09:56 PM

Did you consider orientate for older sprinter?

outofthebox 12-17-2012 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 907120)
Did you consider orientate for older sprinter?

I overlooked him too. What a great way to finish off his career with the BC win. 5 graded stakes sprinting plus the Smile sprint. What i remember most is Tom Amoss knocking DWL and Orientate on TVG saying how sore the horse was going into the BC..

Indian Charlie 12-17-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 907187)
I think that Point Given was better than Smarty Jones.

Barbaro was better than both of them.

RockHardTen1985 12-18-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 907196)
Barbaro was better than both of them.

Barbaro was not close to Point Given. Maybe he could have turned out to be that good, but we will never know. Barbaro would have struggled to beat Bernardini in the Preakness. Point Given was better, faster and more accomplised on the track. I could be wrong but has a horse won 4 straight $1,000,000 Grade 1's since?

Dahoss 12-18-2012 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 907409)
Barbaro was not close to Point Given. Maybe he could have turned out to be that good, but we will never know. Barbaro would have struggled to beat Bernardini in the Preakness. Point Given was better, faster and more accomplised on the track. I could be wrong but has a horse won 4 straight $1,000,000 Grade 1's since?

Thatta boy. Take a few days off in hopes people will forget.

You're the best and I mean that sincerely.

Danzig 12-18-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 907410)
Thatta boy. Take a few days off in hopes people will forget.

You're the best and I mean that sincerely.

:D

RockHardTen1985 12-21-2012 05:38 AM

5 mins apart.... hmmm


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