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Danzig 11-13-2012 09:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 901929)
What rules did he break?

"While affairs may be commonplace in Washington, when they involve the director of the CIA, things can take on a different tone.

Analysts say there is no evidence that a security breach occurred as a result of the affair, but that hasn't stopped discussion that Broadwell could have gained access to classified information as a result of what she has routinely described as "unprecedented access" to Petraeus.

That discussion seemed to gain momentum Monday thanks to comments Broadwell made in a speech last month at the University of Denver.

"I don't know if a lot of you have heard this, but the CIA annex had actually taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to get these prisoners back," Broadwell said.

A senior intelligence official told CNN on Monday, "These detention claims are categorically not true. Nobody was ever held at the annex before, during, or after the attacks."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/12/us/pet...ion/index.html


Call me crazy her story makes a lot more sense than the various ones which we have been told. I wonder where she got the idea about that secret CIA prison?
you mean her story that a senior intel official said wasn't true? hell, anyone can make up stuff. maybe she watches too many movies.
and if you're wondering about people 'covering up' the whole sordid mess:

Last month Republicans thought that Barack Obama’s feckless team had failed Americans in Benghazi. Now they know that the FBI was on to Petraeus this summer, and that the director was talking to the bureau about an affair during the hottest stretch of the scandal.

Those facts are going to prompt more questions. Two House Republicans learned of a scandal that was ensnaring national security figures, and did not run to the press with it.

cal828 11-13-2012 10:15 PM
CNN was reporting earlier tonight that Ms. Broadwell did have classified information on her computer, but she claims she didn't get it from the General. No explanation of where the classified info came from.

Honu 11-13-2012 10:33 PM
It just cracks me up that men no matter how old they are or how far along they are in their career just cant be in control of their smaller head.

pointmanscousin 11-14-2012 01:39 AM
It is a known fact women have as many shoes in their closet as bats in their belfry,i.e.... lots.


It's just some---- like,oh....say Touched in the Grey, don't know where their closet is.

Female Dwarfs are much worse.

cal828 11-14-2012 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 901966)
It just cracks me up that men no matter how old they are or how far along they are in their career just cant be in control of their smaller head.
Not sure I understand the other half of the phenomenon either. Can't understand women that want these old geezers. Stars on the shoulder or cash in the pocket seems to be an aphrodisiac to some women. Only one thing to say about these folks in the most erudite and edifying way befitting the higher education I received : These peoples be ho mongers and ho dogs!!

Danzig 11-14-2012 06:59 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/12/us...pagewanted=all


hopefully the above article will put to bed all talk of conspiracy, etc, etc. also, take note that it mentions petraus was well liked by both parties.

geeker2 11-14-2012 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 901984)
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/12/us...pagewanted=all


hopefully the above article will put to bed all talk of conspiracy, etc, etc. also, take note that it mentions petraus was well liked by both parties.

I never saw any of the conspiracy theories you previously stated - but no doubt with wack jobs on all sides they are sure to be out there.

My question is why did Holder and Mueller neglected to tell Obama about the investigation into Petraeus until after the Election. Just kind of makes you go hummmmmmmm.

Would it have had an affect on the elections if the story broke before ? GOP'ers would say yes DEM 'ers would say no.

GenuineRisk 11-14-2012 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 901918)
You think that the FBI has been investigating the head of the CIA for months and the White House is claiming the President didn't know about it is truthful? You dont think if when Obama started slipping a bit in the polls that this story breaking wouldn't have hurt him even if just slightly? It might not have effected the final result but are you ok with the White House lying to us about a matter that you feel isnt of national security?
Having lived through an eight-year administration that lied us into a war and then lied about how it was going so as not to hurt their own reelection prospects, I can say this is not anywhere on the same level.

In fact, Petraeus himself wrote an op-ed piece in 2004, totally lying about what was going on in Iraq, in order to bolster Bush's reelection prospects in an election that was much closer than the one we just had.

But, as this article points out, Petraeus' first blow job came from the media:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/th...david-petraeus

Cannon Shell 11-14-2012 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 902005)
Having lived through an eight-year administration that lied us into a war and then lied about how it was going so as not to hurt their own reelection prospects, I can say this is not anywhere on the same level.

In fact, Petraeus himself wrote an op-ed piece in 2004, totally lying about what was going on in Iraq, in order to bolster Bush's reelection prospects in an election that was much closer than the one we just had.

But, as this article points out, Petraeus' first blow job came from the media:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/th...david-petraeus
So it is ok because Bush did it?

When people start being ok with their guys doing something wrong because the other guys did something wrong where are we headed? Is it a crime or the worst thing that this administration has done? Not by a longshot. But they knew, they lied about it and there are very few non scripted acts in Washington.

Cannon Shell 11-14-2012 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 901964)
you mean her story that a senior intel official said wasn't true? hell, anyone can make up stuff. maybe she watches too many movies.
and if you're wondering about people 'covering up' the whole sordid mess:

Last month Republicans thought that Barack Obama’s feckless team had failed Americans in Benghazi. Now they know that the FBI was on to Petraeus this summer, and that the director was talking to the bureau about an affair during the hottest stretch of the scandal.

Those facts are going to prompt more questions. Two House Republicans learned of a scandal that was ensnaring national security figures, and did not run to the press with it.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the senor intellegence officials are not usually in the business of admitting that that had secret CIA prisons in embasies that were recently bombed and US officials killed.

Calzone Lord 11-14-2012 04:27 PM
His wife he cheated on was the daughter of the Commandant of West Point. He felched his way to four stars.

bigrun 11-14-2012 05:18 PM
Petraeus to testify at Benghazi hearing.


Quote:
Republican lawmakers have criticized the administration’s evolving explanation of what triggered the Benghazi attack. Officials early on said it was a spontaneous reaction during a protest about an anti-Islamic film. Later, it was termed a planned terrorist attack.


Former CIA Director David Petraeus will testify Thursday about the attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi before the Senate Intelligence Committee, a veteran senator confirmed to NBC News Wednesday.

The Thursday hearing will be the first formal congressional inquiry into the September attack that killed U.S. Ambassador in Libya Chris Stevens, information management officer Sean Smith and security personnel Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

Military analyst Col. Jack Jacobs (Ret.) said the sex scandal will affect the way Petraeus is questioned by Congress, because members were kept in the dark about the FBI inquiry that led to his resignation
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...i-hearing?lite

bigrun 11-14-2012 06:06 PM
And from the Onion..

Nation Horrified To Learn About War In Afghanistan While Reading Up On Petraeus Sex Scandal..



http://www.theonion.com/articles/nat...adline:default

Danzig 11-14-2012 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 902054)
And from the Onion..

Nation Horrified To Learn About War In Afghanistan While Reading Up On Petraeus Sex Scandal..



http://www.theonion.com/articles/nat...adline:default
:tro:

my miss storm cat 11-15-2012 08:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 901934)
i try not to get worked up about hypotheticals.

is he a fool? yes. but unless/until something actually worrisome comes out, it's a non-story to me. sorry.
and 'easily trapped'? i doubt he thought he was being trapped. and unless she had something nefarious in mind, then i have to think it was just an affair.
and she doesn't sound particularly smart, knowing about the ridiculous emails she sent. if she had a cunning plan, she botched it pretty badly.
i seriously doubt either one of them thought all their actions thru. if they had, the affair wouldn't have happened.

and, after months of inquiry, there was no ticking time bomb. just not seeing a grand conspiracy to worry about.
:tro:

pointmanscousin 11-15-2012 09:11 PM
The meaning of Stevie's :tro: to me just lost all of its meaning.

my miss storm cat 11-15-2012 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pointmanscousin (Post 902262)
The meaning of Stevie's :tro: to me just lost all of its meaning.
She's right, cuz.

I wanted to comment on Cals post but no matter how I tried to 'splain Ricky it sounded slutty and horrible. :D

Danny is right though. Don'tcha think?

Hell I feel sorry for the guy.

bigrun 11-15-2012 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pointmanscousin (Post 902262)
The meaning of Stevie's :tro: to me just lost all of its meaning.

Stevie Wonder?....:D..I had a good teacher..:tro:

pointmanscousin 11-15-2012 10:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 902270)
She's right, cuz.

I wanted to comment on Cals post but no matter how I tried to 'splain Ricky it sounded slutty and horrible. :D

Danny is right though. Don'tcha think?

Hell I feel sorry for the guy.
Whatevah you say.

pointmanscousin 11-15-2012 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 902271)
Stevie Wonder?....:D..I had a good teacher..:tro:

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