Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 836021)

We are talking about countries no larger than Texas in most cases

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 836023)

True. Easy for Vermont to go single payer, California just voted it down.



I loved my insurance company, too, for years and years: until they decided, six months after they agreed to pay, not to pay for a major surgery, leaving me on the hook for nearly $50,000.

Luckily, I could afford to pay that, and afford to sue the insurance company. Where, hopefully, arbitration looks like I"ll get a refund check this year, years later.

That's how people declare medical bankruptcy. Or if they can't afford their out of pockets for their problem. What if you or I had a major auto accident, and we ended up with $20,000 as our "out of pocket"? 40% of Americans now live at or near poverty level. Few can afford to pay that back, even over time.

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 836014)

Canadians each pay into their system about the percentage of their income that we do for our elder Medicare coverage. Yet they are covered 100% from cradle to grave, and we only use that same amount of money to pay for some services for those 65-68 and older.

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there are 34 million people in canada. there are 307 million people in america.

just use your head. comparing the US health care system to canada or other european countries is like comparing apples and oranges.

healthcare isnt black and white, and things arent easy.