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Riot 07-21-2011 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 793666)
:zz::zz:

LOL You are crazy, I'm not. Unless I'm expected to pay for what happens in other states.

Naw, I'm just messing with you, because it's so easy to take advantage of your lack of self-awareness. You'll only have to pay for your Governor's own $24 million over budget. Relax.

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Why are you so freaked out about all that is Wisconsin, specifically why are you so freaked out about WI NOT accepting fed money?
Because I hate to see Walker destroy a state I love, and put it years behind the adjoining states.

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If you ever become the majority we're doomed!
Excuse me? "We" (although not sure what you mean by that, it could be Muslims) are the majority right now.

BTW: How do you like what your state legislature snuck through buried deep in the Budget Bill, a constitutional change to the State Supreme Court?

A State Constitutional change. To the Supreme Court. Completey undiscussed in public. Not even mentioned. Buried in a budget bill.

Oh, yeah, Wisconsin's current Gov and legislature are really winners.

dellinger63 07-21-2011 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 793673)

Because I hate to see Walker destroy a state I love, and put it years behind the adjoining states..

well then don't let this out (to the adjoining States)

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Gov. Scott Walker has called a news conference to discuss Wisconsin's job-growth numbers, minutes after the state's latest unemployment report is due for release.

Unemployment numbers are usually released without fanfare. The fact that Walker is holding a news conference Thursday might suggest a favorable report this month.

Wisconsin's unemployment rate has hovered around 7.4 percent for the first five months of the year. That's typically been about 1.5 percentage points better than the national average.

The state's jobless rate has improved from last year, when unemployment ranged from 7.5 percent to 9.2 percent.

Walker's news conference comes on the same day that the U.S. Labor Department released disappointing news about the economy. Applications for unemployment benefits were up last week, evidence of rising layoffs and a weak job market.
http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates...yment-numbers/

Again, the Pres could learn from spending some time here. Only he'd have to shut up, look and listen, like a hunter or fisherman. No wonder WI is ahead of the curve.

wiphan 07-22-2011 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 793673)

Because I hate to see Walker destroy a state I love, and put it years behind the adjoining states.
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By other states I guess you mean IL. :zz:

wiphan 07-22-2011 08:55 AM

As far as the so called high speed rail system goes I can drive my truck and horse trailer full of horses from Milwaukee to Madison 2 1/2 times before I would pay for the price of what would have been a round trip high speed rail ticket. And in reality I could do it faster than the high speed rail. Not to mention the fact that when I got to my destination in the middle of winter I would not have to walk to try and find a cab, bus, etc to actually get to a meaningful destination unlike the high speed rail destination. But again why not take the money from the FED it is free money. Everyone is doing it, just get yours while you can; never mind the unintended consequences of taking this money.

Riot 07-22-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 793739)
As far as the so called high speed rail system goes I can drive my truck and horse trailer full of horses from Milwaukee to Madison 2 1/2 times before I would pay for the price of what would have been a round trip high speed rail ticket.

Oh, well, if you won't personally use the Milwaukee to Madison link, and you already know the prices of the tickets, and you already know how fast the train will travel and how long the trip will take before it's even built, then that's perfectly logical justification for turning down the entire Minneapolis to Chicago line, and the development corridors in the northern part of your state, for everyone else.

The laughable thing is that, if I were you, right now I (you) would be demanding "prove it" about your costs, times, and use rates that you are contending, before the line is even built.

Hey- I'll guess that you are really happy about the Republican Legislature sneaking a major change to your state Constitution into a budget bill, huh? And keeping it out of the pubic eye?

Enjoy personally paying for Walker's expensive, multi-million dollar budget busting decisions. Go Badgers!

wiphan 07-22-2011 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 793832)
Oh, well, if you won't personally use the Milwaukee to Madison link, and you already know the prices of the tickets, and you already know how fast the train will travel and how long the trip will take before it's even built, then that's perfect justification for turning down the entire Minneapolis to Chicago line, and the development corridors in the northern part of your state, for everyone else.

You can get on a plane for less from Milwaukee to Minneappolis than the rail would have cost, plus this is not about Chicago to Minneappolis, this was Milwaukee to Madison. If the fed was going to pay for the costs of Milwaukee to Madison, what happens in a few years from now when they want to expand to minneappolis. The fed says to the state well we gave you the Money for the original Milwaukee to Madison route, now you have to pay for the Madison to Minneappolis route. It is called unintended consequences of taking the feds money. If you have followed the banking industry in the last few years you would understand this.

Riot 07-22-2011 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 793679)
well then don't let this out (to the adjoining States)



http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates...yment-numbers/

Again, the Pres could learn from spending some time here. Only he'd have to shut up, look and listen, like a hunter or fisherman. No wonder WI is ahead of the curve.

Really? How often do you hunt and fish?

We discussed this previously in this thread. Along with the mathematical details ;)

Riot 07-22-2011 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 793838)
You can get on a plane for less from Milwaukee to Minneappolis than the rail would have cost, plus this is not about Chicago to Minneappolis, this was Milwaukee to Madison.

No, actually it's about Minneapolis to Chicago, and beyond that. It's a multi-state project. And I am amazed that you know the ticket prices before the project is even completed. Can you give me that link, please?

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If the fed was going to pay for the costs of Milwaukee to Madison, what happens in a few years from now when they want to expand to minneappolis.
:zz: The above statement reveals much, so I can only assume you do not know as much as you think about the entire project and it's funding. But relax! It's done. You don't have to suffer being part of the multi-state high speed rail project. Worry about Walker being $24 million over budget, and increasing the cost by 50%, to try and maintain your antiquated train system, and how you're going to pay for it. Walker sought over $200 million in federal funds to fix up your current trains, but didn't get it. So I can only assume there is much that won't get updated on the old trains. Kind of sad.

And maybe find out how the legislators you love and support are trying to change your state Constitution behind the public's back.

dellinger63 07-23-2011 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 793839)
Really? How often do you hunt and fish?

We discussed this previously in this thread. Along with the mathematical details ;)

:zz: probably 30-40 times a year. 2-3 times a week in summer. Beni's of being blocks from one of the greatest fishing lakes in Southern WI. (also have a FL license as well and fished maybe 10 times down there)

Don't hunt but shoot sporting clays 10 times a year, I know that doesn't count. BTW the lake was stocked with muskie 2 years ago. About 18 inches now but in two years? I'll be fishing even more.

Yea you know all about me! :D

somerfrost 07-23-2011 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 793991)
:zz: probably 30-40 times a year. 2-3 times a week in summer. Beni's of being blocks from one of the greatest fishing lakes in Southern WI. (also have a FL license as well and fished maybe 10 times down there)

Don't hunt but shoot sporting clays 10 times a year, I know that doesn't count. BTW the lake was stocked with muskie 2 years ago. About 18 inches now but in two years? I'll be fishing even more.

Yea you know all about me! :D

I really miss fishing, when I lived in WVa I would fish 5-6 days a week, had this great hole in the middle of nowhere. When I was in the Army after return from Nam, I was stationed at Ft Dix, NJ...went to a nearby stream and was fishing when I fell in the water, I couldn't believe how nasty the water was, tasted like sewage...I put my pole away and didn't fish again until I returned to WVa. Living in Pa I just never have made it back to the streams, too populated and you have to rely on restocking, seems unsportsman like. I went hunting prior to the Army but it lost it's appeal afterwards, haven't shot a gun since.

Riot 07-24-2011 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 793991)
:zz: probably 30-40 times a year. 2-3 times a week in summer. Beni's of being blocks from one of the greatest fishing lakes in Southern WI. (also have a FL license as well and fished maybe 10 times down there)

Don't hunt but shoot sporting clays 10 times a year, I know that doesn't count. BTW the lake was stocked with muskie 2 years ago. About 18 inches now but in two years? I'll be fishing even more.

Yea you know all about me! :D

Sounds great! Yeah, Florida fishing is awesome. Love the sporting clays, too.


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