If you only knew why I posted here ;) ...It isn't because "I" want to learn anything, I can assure you of that..

And hey, I was just giving you a shot to put your money where your mouth was.....for all I know, you are now jumping on CQ's bandwagon - just like the rest of the post-race analyzers.....

OK, thats two players now....if you agree to set up a money order deal with a third party person I'll do it....Byk will probably be a good candidate to hold the money...

Hey Sunny Boy,
Your reputation is the one in question.
Besides, did you actually CRY when you got he axe at cd? Thats what I was told.

Joel,
I know it must be tough getting humiliated and all after months of arrogantly telling us which one of the two was better, but its amazing to me that you cant just ever look at a race and not make up some whiny ass excuse why your horse got crushed. Its incredible, your horse gets blown by like hes dragging cement blocks from his ankles and somehow you try and spin it in the direction of the BC, blah blah blah.
YOU can't watch races kid, you rely on 2nd and 3rd hand info and then try to pass it off as if it were your own. And you don't even get that right most of the time. This really isn't your game.

sorry, don't see the need to drag a third party into this silly stuff. Steve has enough to do. What happened to the honor system? If these two both end up entered in the race we'll confirm it at that time.

And expect a high caller volume today after he does!!! I'm sure that many will wanna call in and express their thoughts as well.

Wrong once again. Here is Pletchers's quote from BH yesterday;

"I think this puts both horses right at the top of the class," Pletcher continued. "I thought Scat Daddy, considering everything, was the one horse that finished up well out of the speed duel. Circular Quay... is the divisional leader at this stage."

Doesn't sound to me like he was making it real clear that Scat Daddy is the best in the barn. If he considers CQ the divisional leader I believe that covers everyone in his barn.

Arl Jim,
Horses are gauged on their race track performances. They aren't gauged on their morning drills or trainer opinions. WIth CQ's win being so decisive even if Todd feels that the other one is better, hes smart enough to know that the on track battle declared the leader.

good point, he may have early on thought Scat Daddy was better, but i have to believe he is really loving how CQ runs in the afternoons!

[quote=Cunningham Racing]If you only knew why I posted here ;) ...It isn't because "I" want to learn anything, I can assure you of that..

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and modest too.....

I agree and was stunned when I came in last night and read this thread. I mean if a horse wins due to a perfect trip while another has an extremely bad one I can understand someone saying my horse was better. I do it myself.
But this race, while not a "bernadini" win, was very very sound in showing who is the goods.
Granted deciding that he didn't wanna run early helped him rally into the duel, but lost in this was Gomez overreacting and yanking the right rein so hard as the approached the stretch that the horse went sideways and lost momentum and to reaccelerate. What happened was that Gomez had never ridden him before and appeared to be taken by surprise when the horse decided it was time to go. Gomez had been saving ground while trailing(the smart move) and although he hadn't asked the horse to run yet, the horse decided that he wanted to go and began to close into the pack incredibly quick. He went from 15 back to 6 back in a matter of yards and gomez was so taken by surprise that I think he actually feared running into the back of the horses he was gaining on. He yanked very hard on the right rein and you can see the horse's head go completely sideways and he lost momentum. He had to get rolling again and still blew them away easily.
I really can't see how any rational person could have seen that race and decide that anyone was tons the best other than the winner.
What someone told you about who was better months ago is of no relevance when you see an effort like that.

I liked the way Gomez schooled the other jocks in the race.

Hey Oracle, Now that the meet is over and people have had a better chance to watch Gomez, what is everyone saying about him now? I bet people think he's pretty good.

Rup he didn't school anyone in that race. And had lost due to that head turning incident approaching the stretch, he woulda been crucified.
People still think the same thing Rup, talented and dumb. Does so many dumb things and so many great things that he is exasperating. He's also been doing something strange in the lane lately, horses are bearing in on him like crazy and its cost him a couple of wins and almost cost him one on Meribel the other day. He blew a stakes race the other day for 2YO's on grass because of the bearing in he was doing. I've never seen anything like it. WHy do so many horses he rides bear in? Its very strange.

I wish he could have kept that 2 year old(Admiral Bird) straight. That nose cost me $2,000. It's not his fault if a horse is trying to lug in. It would be his fault if the horse came in so bad that he fouled someone and got taken down like Jamie spencer in the Arlington Million back in 2004. When a horse is blowing by everyone on the far outside, they often lug in. The jock just has to make sure that he doesn't bother any of the other horses. Gomez does a pretty good job of making sure he doesn't foul anyone when his horses are lugging in.

Of coure he shooled them in that race. They were all killing themselves in fast fractions and he sat 15 lengths behind and let them kill themselves. If that's not schooling then I don't know what is. I only use the word "schooling" because you always use it.

By the way, do you think that he gets more run out of horses than the other jocks? I think he does.

You may be right about CQs future being a late running sprinter and his action is hard on his hind legs, just like Barbaro's was.

Scat Daddy was just out of gas coming home. I will wait to handicap his next race, it's alittle too early now.

Rupert,
That horse does exactly what he wants to do when he wants to do it. Have you seen his other races? bejarano was just a passenger. Gomez didn't choose to rate that horse, the horse did what he wants. Choosing to rate means breaking well and grabbing a hold and taking back.
he didn't do anything wrong, but his reaction when the horse started that crazy move was funny to watch. Horse took him from 15 back to 6 back in a matter of seconds. he was saving ground(the right thing to do when trailing) and when the horse started that run without him urging him, he yanked him HARD to the right because it honestly looked like he was scared that he was gonna run into the back of the leaders. That was a pretty scary move.

2Hot, I'm not quite sure about his action. But i will say this, that horse is running completely within his own authority. Bejarano said in the Bashford that the horse himself dove to the inside and all he did was hang on and try to get through the hole.
Gomez never asked the horse to start running when he did and he took off like a jet.
Part of his appeal to me is that while he is a headstrong horse that does exactly what he wants to do exactly when he decides to do it, is that he has some personality and loves what he is doing out there. he appears to enjoy racing quite a lot. Its the rare horse who at an early age understands what his objective is out there.
He honestly seems to enjoy what he is doing. I can't find a recent 2yo to compare him too. I honestly think hes no plodder, and I think he will be better going longer when he can stalk moreso than drop to the back of the pack.
He just throws what I call a "knockout punch".