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Danzig 11-28-2010 05:03 PM

in excess?

The Indomitable DrugS 11-28-2010 05:03 PM

Yep. Sire of the immortal Indian Charlie.

RolloTomasi 11-28-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 728366)
Yep. Sire of the immortal Indian Charlie.

What Beyer did In Excess get for his first dirt start, the San Fernando?

He absolutely made a mess of a solid bunch of horses that day but quickly fell back down to earth when having to run 10f in both the Strub and Big Cap.

That's why the Suburban effort is a bit illusory, IMO. IIRC, it was a 5 horse field and he had everything his own way. Chief Honcho was a nice horse but hardly a division heavyweight.

I wonder how the '91 BC Classic would have played out had he started.

Throw Farma Way (I think he was injured by then) into that mix as well and perhaps Unbridled, Festin, and Strike The Gold would have been 1-2-3.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-28-2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 728377)
What Beyer did In Excess get for his first dirt start, the San Fernando?

He absolutely made a mess of a solid bunch of horses that day but quickly fell back down to earth when having to run 10f in both the Strub and Big Cap.

That's why the Suburban effort is a bit illusory, IMO. IIRC, it was a 5 horse field and he had everything his own way. Chief Honcho was a nice horse but hardly a division heavyweight.

I wonder how the '91 BC Classic would have played out had he started.

Throw Farma Way (I think he was injured by then) into that mix as well and perhaps Unbridled, Festin, and Strike The Gold would have been 1-2-3.

117 - the Suburban was a 7 horse field... I don't remember anything about it obviously. Chief Honcho was in pretty solid form - after the two defeats to In Excess - he was beaten less than a length by Black Tie Affair in the Gr 1 Iselin and 2nd by 1.25 lengths to Festin in the Jockey Club Gold Cup in his next two starts.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-28-2010 06:09 PM

This horse was dead last of 12 - after just 8 furlongs - in the Breeders Cup Classic. Despite being very hard ridden - he was a length behind the hopelessly slow and still restrained Pleasant Prince after a mile ... but unlike Life At Ten, Johnny V. at least bothered to ask him for everything he had.



Name him.

DaTruth 11-28-2010 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 728410)
This horse was dead last of 12 - after just 8 furlongs - in the Breeders Cup Classic. Despite being very hard ridden - he was a length behind the hopelessly slow and still restrained Pleasant Prince after a mile ... but unlike Life At Ten, Johnny V. at least bothered to ask him for everything he had.



Name him.

Dr. Carter.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-28-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 728415)
Dr. Carter.

Please, he would have been able to make the lead against First Dude - especially considering that they wanted to take First Dude back according to Romans.

He also would have dusted a restrained Pleasant Prince at a mile.

KirisClown 11-28-2010 06:26 PM

He got within 29lths of Zenyatta.. so he must have been good.

KirisClown 11-28-2010 06:26 PM

His 2yr old season.. he would go on to be a multiple Grade I winner of over 3 million.


Indian Charlie 11-28-2010 06:26 PM

Vanlandingham?

The Indomitable DrugS 11-28-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown (Post 728421)
His 2yr old season.. he would go on to be a multiple Grade I winner of over 3 million.


Awad

The Indomitable DrugS 11-28-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown (Post 728420)
He got within 29lths of Zenyatta.. so he must have been good.

Espoir City - off of his absolutely miserable prep race in Japan and all the reports he was training very poorly - will go down as the horse who led the 2010 BC Classic field after a mile.

Japan really sent the wrong horse. They have to have 15 horses over there with a late running route closer style who could have won the BC Classic this year.

KirisClown 11-28-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 728424)
Awad

Yup, one of my favorites .. good job.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-28-2010 06:47 PM

Another from the stellar Sea Hero crop - this one actually sired a great female sprinter.



Name him.

Danzig 11-28-2010 06:52 PM

dixieland heat

The Indomitable DrugS 11-28-2010 06:53 PM

Yep. Sire of Xtra Heat.

DaTruth 11-28-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 728450)
dixieland heat

Name the trainer. Hint, his wife was indicted by the feds the other day.

RolloTomasi 11-28-2010 07:06 PM

Yet another lost stakes race of great significance

Young America Trivia

1) This son of Bold Bidder won the '78 Young America on his way to winning two-thirds of the Triple Crown. He returned to the Meadowlands at 3 to win the Meadowlands Cup. Name him.

2) This colt, champion 2yo in USA and Canada, took the '81 Young America over eventual Derby runner-up Laser Light. At 4 he returned to the Meadowlands to run 2nd in the Meadowlands Cup. Name him.

3) This NY-bred son of Seattle Slew won the '82 Young America. At 3 he also took the Meadowlands Cup and Paterson at the Meadowlands. In the Meadowlands Cup, the 2nd place finisher was the answer to (2). Also, the 3rd place finisher, Water Bank was out of Summertide, a half-sister to this horse. Name him.

4) Seattle Slew also sired the '83 Young America winner, who defeated Dr. Carter. The following season he won the Kentucky Derby and Belmont Stakes. Name him.

5) Script Ohio, a Darby Dan colt by Roberto, won the '84 Young America. In 2nd and 3rd respectively were the eventual Kentucky Derby and Preakness winners. Name them.

6) Eventual Belmont winner Danzig Connection and Champagne winner Mogambo, chased this Overbrook colt home in the '85 Young America. A nose loss in the subsequent BC Juvenile cost him an Eclipse as champion 2yo. Name him.

7) This Pleasant Colony colt took the '89 Young America. A bust at 3 in Florida, he was transferred to the West Coast at 4 under Neil Drysdale with some success, taking the Grade 1 Californian at Hollywood Park. Name him.

RolloTomasi 11-28-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 728456)
Name the trainer. Hint, his wife was indicted by the feds the other day.

Gerald Romero.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-28-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 728459)
Yet another lost stakes race of great significance

Young America Trivia

1) This son of Bold Bidder won the '78 Young America on his way to winning two-thirds of the Triple Crown. He returned to the Meadowlands at 3 to win the Meadowlands Cup. Name him.

2) This colt, champion 2yo in USA and Canada, took the '81 Young America over eventual Derby runner-up Laser Light. At 4 he returned to the Meadowlands to run 2nd in the Meadowlands Cup. Name him.

3) This NY-bred son of Seattle Slew won the '82 Young America. At 3 he also took the Meadowlands Cup and Paterson at the Meadowlands. In the Meadowlands Cup, the 2nd place finisher was the answer to (2). Also, the 3rd place finisher, Water Bank was out of Summertide, a half-sister to this horse. Name him.

4) Seattle Slew also sired the '83 Young America winner, who defeated Dr. Carter. The following season he won the Kentucky Derby and Belmont Stakes. Name him.

5) Script Ohio, a Darby Dan colt by Roberto, won the '84 Young America. In 2nd and 3rd respectively were the eventual Kentucky Derby and Preakness winners. Name them.

6) Eventual Belmont winner Danzig Connection and Champagne winner Mogambo, chased this Overbrook colt home in the '85 Young America. A nose loss in the subsequent BC Juvenile cost him an Eclipse as champion 2yo. Name him.

7) This Pleasant Colony colt took the '89 Young America. A bust at 3 in Florida, he was transferred to the West Coast at 4 under Neil Drysdale with some success, taking the Grade 1 Californian at Hollywood Park. Name him.

1. Spectacular Bid

2. Deputy Minister

3. Not Sure

4. Swale

5. Chief's Crown owned those horses at two. I think Spend a Buck and whoever won the Preakness

6. Storm Cat

7. Not Sure


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