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Riot 10-22-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 709798)
Senator Jim DeMint promises to introduce legislation to bar public funding of NPR. So, at least the taxpayer-fueled subsidizing of this left wing madness will cease.

Doubtful that will happen. NPR is the third-largest radio station in the country, and has been supported over the past 30-40 years by far more people than currently want to politically grandstand about removing it's funding because an employee didn't adhere to his employment contract and was fired.

I would think the Libertarians would be all over NPR in support.

Rupert Pupkin 10-22-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709913)
Well, no, but you go right ahead making yourself look silly ;)

You would have more fear of the young man in baggy clothes than the old lady? Why? Are you a sexist? Are you prejudice against young people?

Coach Pants 10-22-2010 04:32 PM

She's Medusa.

slotdirt 10-22-2010 05:23 PM

I knew she had to have a secret weapon.

dellinger63 10-23-2010 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709920)
I would think the Libertarians would be all over NPR in support.


I would think Libertarians would demand the Government stop funding NPR all together or are the propaganda spewing radio stations different and more worthy than say the funding of education or social security? :zz:

Riot 10-23-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 710129)
I would think Libertarians would demand the Government stop funding NPR all together or are the propaganda spewing radio stations different and more worthy than say the funding of education or social security? :zz:

The government funds less than 2% of NPR's budget. I would think Libertarians would stand up for the right of a corporation to determine it's own employees without government interference.

Rupert Pupkin 10-23-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709913)
Well, no, but you go right ahead making yourself look silly ;)

I still can't get over you admitting that you would be more fearful of the young man in baggy pants than the 80 year old lady. I guess that means that you are a sexist and are prejudice against young people. I used to think you were so tolerant. I'm very disappointed in you.

dellinger63 10-24-2010 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 710174)
The government funds less than 2% of NPR's budget. .

That would be nice but in the real world

Typically, NPR member stations raise funds through on-air pledge drives, corporate underwriting, and grants from state governments, universities, and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. In 2009, member stations derived 6% of their revenue from local funding and 10% of their revenue from the federal funding in the form of CPB grants


If they were not funded on the taxpayer dime of course Libertarians would say it's a private corporation free to do as it will but NPR isn't private. Suppose government funding both local and federal went to FOX in an equal amount?

Riot 10-24-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 710468)
That would be nice but in the real world

Typically, NPR member stations raise funds through on-air pledge drives, corporate underwriting, and grants from state governments, universities, and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. In 2009, member stations derived 6% of their revenue from local funding and 10% of their revenue from the federal funding in the form of CPB grants


If they were not funded on the taxpayer dime of course Libertarians would say it's a private corporation free to do as it will but NPR isn't private. Suppose government funding both local and federal went to FOX in an equal amount?

:zz: We are not talking about local member stations. We are talking about the parent corp, the original government money going to Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Government funding is less than 2% of their revenue.

If you want to cut funding to NPR, I suggest you call the private corporations that support it, such as Bill and Melinda Gates, and Midland, and complain.

Riot 10-24-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 710228)
I still can't get over you admitting that you would be more fearful of the young man in baggy pants than the 80 year old lady. I guess that means that you are a sexist and are prejudice against young people. I used to think you were so tolerant. I'm very disappointed in you.

Still looking silly.

When you make stuff up and talk to yourself, do you listen?

dellinger63 10-24-2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 710472)
:zz: If you want to cut funding to NPR, I suggest you call the private corporations that support it, such as Bill and Melinda Gates, and Midland, and complain.

I could care less what private corps/charites fund NPR, I can choose to not buy their stock in the case of corps

I just don't want tax payer dollars going there as there's no way to opt out

You know the Libertarian Way!

Riot 10-24-2010 12:16 PM

NPR was started by Nixon, seriously funded by Reagan and Bush The First (that's why I laugh when some refuse to believe I'm a pretty typical moderate R - for 40 years most R's had a strong social conscience).

Now they get about 460 million a year. Sure, take that drop in the bucket away if you can meet the test, below (the GOP has variously tried to defund NPR throughout the years, to no avail).

BTW, do you also want to defund the National Endowment for the Arts?

Before anybody defunds anything, though, I do challenge you to find any demonstrably measurable bias whatsoever, right or left, about NPR. The transcripts are there. Plenty have looked in the past, during past attempts to defund.

You complain there is no "opt out" clause for how your tax money is spent. I say too bad. You are an American citizen. You elect representatives to go to Washington and spend your tax money. Individuals are not entitled to an individual "opt out" clause if they want to be an American and live by our Constitution and laws.

Feel free to buy some land outside American, and start Libertarian World, however (a la Atlas Shrugged)

dellinger63 10-24-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 710505)
NPR was started by Nixon, seriously funded by Reagan and Bush The First (that's why I laugh when some refuse to believe I'm a pretty typical moderate R - for 40 years most R's had a strong social conscience).)

I don't care if it's R run or D run I don't want taxpayer dollars going to a radio station. Free market provides enough variety and if not there is always satellite and ATRAB.


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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 710505)
BTW, do you also want to defund the National Endowment for the Arts?

Of course I do!

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 710505)
You complain there is no "opt out" clause for how your tax money is spent. I say too bad. You are an American citizen. You elect representatives to go to Washington and spend your tax money. Individuals are not entitled to an individual "opt out" clause if they want to be an American and live by our Constitution and laws.

But I and any other citizen have a vote and if the shift occurs this November too bad your socialist healthcare program will be repealed and Obama's remaining two years will be served out as a lame duck.


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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 710505)
Feel free to buy some land outside American, and start Libertarian World

I'd rather have my own country back thank you.......

Riot 10-24-2010 12:53 PM

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But I and any other citizen have a vote and if the shift occurs this November too bad your socialist healthcare program will be repealed and Obama's remaining two years will be served out as a lame duck.
The only shift I see will be the GOP picking up 30 seats or less in the House. Maybe 35. They already lost the Senate months ago.

The healthcare reform act (really the insurance "a little" reform act) isn't "socialist" in the least (please show how it is?).

And even if both the House and Senate ever voted to repeal it, it would be impossible, as this President would veto it.

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I'd rather have my own country back thank you......
"Back from" what? The democratic majority that voted in the last election? As you said, everyone gets a vote.

dellinger63 10-24-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 710521)
The healthcare reform act (really the insurance "a little" reform act) isn't "socialist" in the least (please show how it is?).
.


When government, through regulations and laws, is involved in virtually every aspect of healthcare from recommended treatment, education, and prevention to billing and payment, reducing premiums for high-risk patients at the expense of healthy patients, subsidizing healthcare for low income patients on the backs everyone else and increasing funding exponentially to an already fraud-laden who-you-know system reeks of socialism IMO

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-24-2010 05:38 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTSQo...layer_embedded

Riot 10-24-2010 06:27 PM

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When government, through regulations and laws, is involved in virtually every aspect of healthcare from recommended treatment, education, and prevention to billing and payment, reducing premiums for high-risk patients at the expense of healthy patients, subsidizing healthcare for low income patients on the backs everyone else and increasing funding exponentially to an already fraud-laden who-you-know system reeks of socialism IMO
Oh, goodie! That's not there! You're safe from socialism :tro:

Rupert Pupkin 10-24-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 710473)
Still looking silly.

When you make stuff up and talk to yourself, do you listen?

Make up you mind. I first said that you have the same reaction whether you see an 80 year old lady or a young man in baggy pants. You denied it. Since you denied it I said that means you have a different reaction when you see an 80 year old lady compared to a young man in baggy pants. Now you're denying that too?

Which is it? Make up your mind. You can't have it both ways. You are worse than a politician.

I will give you another oppurtunity to clarify your position. It's a simple question. If you are walking down a dark street at midnight and you saw someone approaching you, would you be more frightened if it was a 20 year old guy in baggy pants or if it was an 80 year old lady?

chucklestheclown 10-24-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 710688)
I will give you an oppurtunity to clarify your position. It's a simple question. If you are walking down a dark street at midnight and you saw someone approaching you, would you be more frightened if it was a 20 year old guy in baggy pants or if it was an 80 year old lady?

You have never met my wife.

clyde 10-25-2010 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 709986)
She's Medusa.

Don't insult snake head in this manner.



She's Doprah Winfrey,Al Coulter,Snarfa Palin,Can'tSee Pelosi and Pillaried Clinton all wrapped up in one grey big ol' smelly muff box.


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