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hockey2315 08-26-2010 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 687893)
Will you be here?
What do you think of the pick 4? After looking at the pps Im not as excited. I might be more into the early pick 4.

Nah working from down here. . . I think the late pk4 looks pressable.

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2010 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 687896)
Nah working from down here. . . I think the late pk4 looks pressable.

Pressable? Hmm..
Discreetly Mine is not a toss, but Im likely to use 3. Who do you like in the Victory Ride? Are you really pressing Qualia? I think she finally busts out, but her hang job last time is really disapointing.
Back to the Victory Ride... I would say the 3,4,5,7,8,9 can all win, with the 3 being the total key to the race. Does she put them all on the chase and cause a meltdown, or does she get brave? The 8 being least likely of the ones I mentioned, but in a spread I think I would cover.

hockey2315 08-26-2010 01:48 AM

Katy Now borders on a single for me. Not sure about who, if anyone, to back up with.

Against the chalk in Ballerina. Will use Qualia and 2 or 3 others.

Discreetly Mine is basically a single. Might back up w/ someone weird like the 6. . . maybe 2.

Afleet Express, Fly Down, Trappe Shot, Friend Or Foe.

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2010 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 687900)
Katy Now borders on a single for me. Not sure about who, if anyone, to back up with.

Against the chalk in Ballerina. Will use Qualia and 2 or 3 others.

Discreetly Mine is basically a single. Might back up w/ someone weird like the 6. . . maybe 2.

Afleet Express, Fly Down, Trappe Shot, Friend Or Foe.

Friend Or Foe is another toss for me, I forgot about him. I'm not letting Baffert beat me in the Bishop.

ateamstupid 08-26-2010 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 687900)
Katy Now borders on a single for me. Not sure about who, if anyone, to back up with.

Against the chalk in Ballerina. Will use Qualia and 2 or 3 others.

Discreetly Mine is basically a single. Might back up w/ someone weird like the 6. . . maybe 2.

Afleet Express, Fly Down, Trappe Shot, Friend Or Foe.

Rapport looks like the speed of the speed. I'd take her heads up against Katy Now.

iamthelurker 08-26-2010 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Betsy (Post 687851)
I think Nicky likes Ice Box best.......then Fly Down. I don't think he's that enamored of MR - his quotes abou MR do not exactly radiate confidence.

I think Ice Box is overrated and although I like Fly Down a lot, he didn't show anything in the Jim Dandy.

Fly Down be the winner.

Dahoss 08-26-2010 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 687900)

Afleet Express, Fly Down, Trappe Shot, Friend Or Foe.

What do you like about Friend or Foe?

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2010 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 687912)
What do you like about Friend or Foe?


What do you like about First Dude? He has danced all the dances vs the best of this crop and has not been good enough. Now he faces some new guns plus the same horses, and a fair amount of early speed. I think he has very little chance.

hockey2315 08-26-2010 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 687912)
What do you like about Friend or Foe?

He ran well enough to me last time that I'm tossing him in as my fourth horse. Considering the horses I'm for and the horses I'm against it makes sense to use him at a big price.

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2010 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 687934)
He ran well enough to me last time that I'm tossing him in as my fourth horse. Considering the horses I'm for and the horses I'm against it makes sense to use him at a big price.

Why do you like Katty Now so much?
Shes logical for sure, she might even be on of my a's. But, a single?

Dahoss 08-26-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 687931)
What do you like about First Dude? He has danced all the dances vs the best of this crop and has not been good enough. Now he faces some new guns plus the same horses, and a fair amount of early speed. I think he has very little chance.

So First Dude has little chance, but Admiral Alex does? Yeah, that makes sense.

To be honest, I liked First Dude a lot more before I found out Miners Reserve was in the race. But, I think he's better than his last race. Out of the horses that will be near the lead, he's the only one I think will be around at the end and the addition of blinkers should have him more focused. As of right now I'll probably just bet Ice Box to win and use IB, First Dude, Fly Down and Afleet Express in multi's.

I'll probably eat crow, but I want no part of Trappe Shot. I don't think he wants any part of 10 furlongs.

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 687941)
So First Dude has little chance, but Admiral Alex does? Yeah, that makes sense.

To be honest, I liked First Dude a lot more before I found out Miners Reserve was in the race. But, I think he's better than his last race. Out of the horses that will be near the lead, he's the only one I think will be around at the end and the addition of blinkers should have him more focused. As of right now I'll probably just bet Ice Box to win and use IB, First Dude, Fly Down and Afleet Express in multi's.

I'll probably eat crow, but I want no part of Trappe Shot. I don't think he wants any part of 10 furlongs.

I want to use Fly Down and Afleet Express in multis and call it a day, but I do not trust Lezcano.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-26-2010 10:00 AM

In the baby race on the Travers undercard ... Dominguez is named to ride on an Albertrani debuter by Henny Hughes out of Stormy Blues that is 12/1 on the morning line.

Stormy Blues won her debut by 16 lengths and was in a recent trivia thread..



Henny Hughes was also a very fast 2yo sprinter ... if that horse is live on the board it should be dangerous.

hockey2315 08-26-2010 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 687935)
Why do you like Katty Now so much?
Shes logical for sure, she might even be on of my a's. But, a single?

She reminds me of a lot of 3-year-olds who do well turning back after they've failed at longer distances. She can lay close enough to track the Baffert, who will either have to go crazy again to be loose on the lead or get pestered by a few others if they try to slow her down.

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 687945)
In the baby race on the Travers undercard ... Dominguez is named to ride on an Albertrani debuter by Henny Hughes out of Stormy Blues that is 12/1 on the morning line.

Stormy Blues won her debut by 16 lengths and was in a recent trivia thread..



Henny Hughes was also a very fast 2yo sprinter ... if that horse is live on the board it should be dangerous.

If its live is the big question. HH has been pretty bad, and it seems like his horses are showing up on turf a lot.
Im actually falling in love with the 4 in there, Im waiting for a PM from Gales to confirm.

Indian Charlie 08-26-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 687948)
If its live is the big question. HH has been pretty bad, and it seems like his horses are showing up on turf a lot.

Any IC babies on the card?

tjfla 08-26-2010 10:07 AM

First Dude has a way better chance of winning than Admiral Alex however just watch the Belmont to see what will happen. First Dude will lead them around the whole way while posting nice fractions(No Jim Dandy here where 2 horses go 3F in 2 min:p) with Miner's Reserve pushing him.

The problem with ALW and Miner's Reserve and looking at the Jim Dandy is they got away with the lead. This won't happen in this race,First Dude is going out front and he has already shown he can take the lead all the way around.

Sets up perfect for Fly Down,Afleet Express and somewhat Ice Box.

I could see Friend or Foe hitting the board tho at a nice price.

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 687949)
Any IC babies on the card?

Im looking at the wrong race, I was talking the 5th.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-26-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 687949)
Any IC babies on the card?

Yeah - if the Pletcher IC colt wins the 6th race - we could probably just concede next years triple crown to him. He's named after FreddyMo.

Indian Charlie 08-26-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 687953)
Yeah - if the Pletcher IC colt wins the 6th race - we could probably just concede next years triple crown to him. He's named after FreddyMo.

So, he's athletic, swift and smart?


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