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dellinger63 08-15-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683396)
Like where he has to remind some that all Americans are entitled to freedom of religion?

I started this thread because people are acting surprised Obama came out in support and I find that funny.

Now that he's come out in favor of freedom of religion how about processing some of these illegals out and keeping them from coming back in. If he has to why not look at that great Islamic country of Iran and learn how they secure their borders. Hell maybe even N. Korea. They can detect invaders 'feet' into the country.

This goof has an aunt he barely knows :rolleyes: living here illegally and until recently w/o his influence was granted asylum. :rolleyes::rolleyes: And she had section 8 housing w/o waiting in line with that shaking baby. :zz:

Cannon Shell 08-15-2010 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683401)
Ah. The, "Your Constitutional rights end where I'm unhappy with the results" argument.

Did you miss the part where i said that no one is denying that they have a "right" to build there?

Riot 08-15-2010 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 683402)
No one said that all muslims are terrorists but the one that flew planes into those buildings weren't part of some fringe group no one ever heard of that was wiped out that day. They were muslim terrorists no matter how you try to spin it. .

Baloney. They were Al-Qaeda. A violent extremist fringe group. No matter how hard you try to spin it otherwise.

Riot 08-15-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 683406)
Did you miss the part where i said that no one is denying that they have a "right" to build there?

Then I guess you're left with stomping your feet in anger at "them". The "them", some of your fellow Americans, that have been living and working and praying in that neighborhood for the past 40-50 years.

dellinger63 08-15-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683407)
Baloney. They were Al-Qaeda. A violent extremist fringe group. No matter how hard you try to spin it otherwise.

were they reciting islamic prayers or al qaeda creeds as they were heading into the area where the mosque will be built?

Riot 08-15-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 683403)
I started this thread because people are acting surprised Obama came out in support but I now want to bring up illegals again, and especially Obama's estranged father's sister. And Jimmy Carter :mad:

FTFY ;)

dellinger63 08-15-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683408)
Then I guess you're left with stomping your feet in anger at "them". The "them", some of your fellow Americans, that have been living and working and praying in that neighborhood for the past 40-50 years.

will you agree the 911 survivors and sympathizers have a 'right' to stomp their feet on the public sidewalk in front of the mosque?

Riot 08-15-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 683409)
were they reciting islamic prayers or al qaeda creeds as they were heading into the area where the mosque will be built?

ROFLMAO. Because that really matters, doesn't it, Dell? As much as if a band of self-avowed Christians blows up a building killing hundreds of Americans, if they were reciting verses from the NewTestament while they are killing toddlers, that means all other Christians in the world are religious murderers, too.

Fail.

dellinger63 08-15-2010 08:36 PM

I'm giving this idea away. Need to buy property near said mosque and

Goes something like this....

The 40 Virgins Bar and Grill where when there is a call for prayer there is a call to drink and we'll be here in between prayers too. God Bless America and many other favorites can be heard from the karaoke bar set up on our deck directly across from the famed Zero Mosque. Girls showing faces and heads allowed in for free and girls showing cleavage drink 2 for 1.

Cannon Shell 08-15-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683407)
Baloney. They were Al-Qaeda. A violent extremist fringe group. No matter how hard you try to spin it otherwise.

Which has perhaps hundreds of thousands of members worldwide, including in the US, virtually all of which are Muslims. They also have the support of a wide swath of the Muslim world. Can you tell me by sight who is a violent muslim member of Al Queda and who is a peaceful muslim? Is there a Christian fringe group the size or scope of Al Queda?

Riot 08-15-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 683412)
will you agree the 911 survivors and sympathizers have a 'right' to stomp their feet on the public sidewalk in front of the mosque?

Of course they do. They can join the Muslim 911 survivors and sympathizers of all religions and the atheists and agnostics and Constitutional scholars that are in support of the freedom to practice religion in this country, and want the members of the community that have been there since before the World Trade Center was built to be able to expand their building and community presence and build new.

But no taking the law into one's own hands - you know, such as shooting and killing someone inside a church, just because that person practices a type of legal medicine, but you disagree that it should be legal because of your religious beliefs.

Riot 08-15-2010 08:41 PM

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Which has perhaps hundreds of thousands of members worldwide, including in the US, virtually all of which are Muslims.
Um ... you'd better google Al Quaeda.

Riot 08-15-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 683418)
Can you tell me by sight who is a violent muslim member of Al Queda and who is a peaceful muslim?

Can you tell me by sight who is a violent abortion doctor-killing Christian and who is a peaceful Christian?

Cannon Shell 08-15-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683408)
Then I guess you're left with stomping your feet in anger at "them". The "them", some of your fellow Americans, that have been living and working and praying in that neighborhood for the past 40-50 years.

Where did i stomp my feet? By pointing out that the idea of Islam as a peaceful religion flys in the face of the fact that ground zero there is a ground zero at all? That the reason there is outrage is because the very people that created ground zero would have been taken with in at the mosque with open arms? That maybe the people of NY are still a little sensitive since they remain a huge target of muslim terrorists including the one who tried to blow up a car this summer in Times Square?

dellinger63 08-15-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683415)
ROFLMAO. Because that really matters, doesn't it, Dell? As much as if a band of self-avowed Christians blows up a building killing hundreds of Americans, .

Same thing. :zz:

McVeigh Clan v. Al Quada

Riot 08-15-2010 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 683423)
Where did i stomp my feet? By pointing out that the idea of Islam as a peaceful religion flys in the face of the fact that ground zero there is a ground zero at all? That the reason there is outrage is because the very people that created ground zero would have been taken with in at the mosque with open arms? That maybe the people of NY are still a little sensitive since they remain a huge target of muslim terrorists including the one who tried to blow up a car this summer in Times Square?

You think all Muslims are killing terrorists. Got it. Good luck with that.

Riot 08-15-2010 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 683425)
Same thing. :zz:

McVeigh Clan v. Al Quada

Of course it is. Anybody committing murder in the name of a religion paints all members of that religion as being exactly the same. Right?

I'm done. You boys carry on trying to deny your fellow Americans their right to practice their religion, because you don't like it.

Cannon Shell 08-15-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683421)
Can you tell me by sight who is a violent abortion doctor-killing Christian and who is a peaceful Christian?

Sure. a few are in jail and the rest are peaceful. Comparing a handful of violent right wing extremists and a world wide terror network is a stretch.

It is the sign of desperation to try to compare self-avowed enemies of the country and a handful of domestic looneys.

dellinger63 08-15-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683419)
Of course they do. They can join the Muslim 911 survivors and sympathizers of all religions and the atheists and agnostics and Constitutional scholars that are in support of the freedom to practice religion in this country, and want the members of the community that have been there since before the World Trade Center was built to be able to expand their building and community presence and build new.

But no taking the law into one's own hands - you know, such as shooting and killing someone inside a church, just because that person practices a type of legal medicine, but you disagree that it should be legal because of your religious beliefs.

cool than lets party NYC/American style right there in front. Who knows maybe we'll save some who feel forced into Islam.

dellinger63 08-15-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683427)

I'm done. You boys carry on trying to deny your fellow Americans their right to practice their religion, because you don't like it.


I think they have a right to build the mosque as I've said repeatedly. I also want to see NYC in it's 'Time's Square' glory to be out in front. That's also a right and the American way.


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