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Coach Pants 08-02-2010 04:11 PM

I stopped reading after the first 20 posts.

Dude.

AeWingnut 08-02-2010 04:58 PM

why is anyone excited about a 3-5 shot winning a race?

RockHardTen1985 08-02-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 677403)
why is anyone excited about a 3-5 shot winning a race?

Is it all about betting? I would enjoy horse racing even if I did not/could not bet for a while or at all anymore.

herkhorse 08-02-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 677424)
Is it all about betting? I would enjoy horse racing even if I did not/could not bet for a while or at all anymore.

post of the year

The Indomitable DrugS 08-02-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane (Post 677363)
Up to and including the Haskell the ones in bold would differ from your list.

Better than Menifee and Dixie Union? You must be a huge fan of horses who consistantly beat absolutely garbage fields in time no faster than freaking Omniescent.

War Emblem never finished 2nd or 3rd - he'd stop on a dime or run a hole in the wind .. the kind of horse you always play against underneath in exotics if you don't like him .. but he'd breeze in-hand against LAL.

Menifee was just plain better than LAL. He actually faced real horses and ran several better races.

Dixie Union would beat the ever loving piss out of LAL. Dixie Union was an awesome horse who would be hailed as a super horse in this crop. He beat both Caller One and Swept Overboard twice sprinting. When he won the Haskell - the very good Captain Steve was 2nd, future two-time Santa Anita Handicap winner Milwaukee Brew was 3rd and More Than Ready was 4th. The start before the Haskell he was beaten just a neck by Tiznow and had to give Tiznow 11lbs. He had a 112 Beyer sprinting and a 111 Beyer at 9fs and he faced absolutely amazing competition.

Roman Ruler was nothing special - and I rated him a toss-up with LAL - but he was a very good 2yo sprinter and he beat an ok horse in Flower Alley in the Dwyer and was a good 2nd to the older Rock Hard Ten in the final start of his career.

Here's who finished 2nd to LAL in his Grade 1 wins. Make Music For Me (1-for-10 lifetime), Pulsion (1-for-9 lifetime - most recently 5th in an N1X) Noble's Promise (winless in his last 6 starts) First Dude (1-for-9 lifetime) and Trappe Shot (tough trip horse finally making his graded stakes debut)

The Indomitable DrugS 08-02-2010 06:11 PM

* LAL



* MENIFEE



* WAR EMBLEM



* ROMAN RULER


RockHardTen1985 08-02-2010 06:24 PM

So its all about beyers right? L@L was won 5 G1's second by a head in another and won 2 G2's. Champion 2yr old, but these other horses are faster and better, because the beyers are higher? THanks for clearing it up DOug.

ateamstupid 08-02-2010 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 677444)
So its all about beyers right? L@L was won 5 G1's second by a head in another and won 2 G2's. Champion 2yr old, but these other horses are faster and better, because the beyers are higher? THanks for clearing it up DOug.

By your logic, Lookin at Lucky blows Quality Road off the track. It's all about Grade I's and Eclipses, right?

The Indomitable DrugS 08-02-2010 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 677444)
So its all about beyers right? L@L was won 5 G1's second by a head in another and won 2 G2's. Champion 2yr old, but these other horses are faster and better, because the beyers are higher? THanks for clearing it up DOug.

You're so clueless and incompetent it's amusing.

How do you think Dixie Union would do against Make Music For Me, Pulsion, Trappe Shot, Noble's Promise, and First Dude?

He might do to those horses what Rachel Alexandra did to Malibu Prayer and Gabby's Golden Girl last year ... the only difference is that the horses LAL grinds down in his big wins have absolutely no Graded Stakes luck - and horses like Malibu Prayer, Gabby's Golden Girl, and Flashing are all Gr 1 winners.

RockHardTen1985 08-02-2010 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 677455)
You're so clueless and incompetent it's amusing.

How do you think Dixie Union would do against Make Music For Me, Pulsion, Trappe Shot, Noble's Promise, and First Dude?

He might do to those horses what Rachel Alexandra did to Malibu Prayer and Gabby's Golden Girl last year ... the only difference is that the horses LAL grinds down in his big wins have absolutely no Graded Stakes luck - and horses like Malibu Prayer, Gabby's Golden Girl, and Flashing are all Gr 1 winners.


Its not that simple.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-02-2010 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 677457)
Its not that simple.

Yeah .. Lookin At Lucky is a 2yo champion after all!!

Look for the first two horses who finished 2nd to him in his Grade 1 wins to appear for a 20K claiming tag sometime in the future.




RockHardTen1985 08-02-2010 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 677458)
Yeah .. Lookin At Lucky is a 2yo champion after all!!

Look for the first two horses who finished 2nd to him in his Grade 1 wins to appear for a 20K claiming tag sometime in the future.






Ok Doug.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-02-2010 06:57 PM

Latigo Shore sure flattered Trappe Shot and Nacho Friend today.

randallscott35 08-02-2010 06:58 PM

Pulsion is due.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-02-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 677461)
Pulsion is due.

I love Make Music For Me's form .. he was 6th at 2/5 odds in a MSW race sandwhiched right in between three straight very competitive finishes in Grade 1 company.

It would be lovely if Pulsion, Make Music For Me, and First Dude all met in an N1X allowance race .. First Dude would take them apart.

tiggerv 08-02-2010 07:03 PM

Pennsylvania Derby?

http://www.drf.com/news/lookin-lucky-headed-home

Coach Pants 08-02-2010 07:09 PM

An ideal bridge between the Haskell and Breeders Cup Classic?

FFS, Privman.

Coach Pants 08-02-2010 07:25 PM

There would be multiple orgasms going on in this thread if LAL equaled Menifee's Haskell.

rpncaine 08-02-2010 07:31 PM

F***in' Awesome Avatar!

Coach Pants 08-02-2010 07:43 PM

It is.

If Philadelphia Park had any sense they would fly him up there for Pennsylvania Derby day.

It already has over 3.5 million views on Youtube.


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