Here's the deal, however. While you and other's who, perhaps, lack a clue as to the rudimentary workings of the sport, might look at the stats and think that Cruget was actually competent --- hell, even quite good--- anyone who has been around the backstretch or bet horses seriously or even followed the game seriously or even remotely understands setups knows the real deal. Cruget can shove his accomplishments UP HIS FRENCH ASS. He got so many good horses beat and busted so many poor backstretch employees that were looking to make a few bucks betting on horses they'd cared for that rather than getting into the Hall of Fame, Cruget should get lynched. Seriously, this was one incompetent MOFO. And, complicating things was that he was smug about it. He'd come back after getting the best horse in the race beat and act as if he'd done nothing wrong. How dare anyone question him? He clearly had some superior suckup skills, however, because quite a few big outfits felt the need to ride him first call. It was a bad time overall when this idiot was riding.

Loving the Crudget discussion... I have a question though...

Do you think Hoist The Flag belongs in the Hall of Fame (2 y-old-Champion and great sire injured on the track)

Also will Barbaro be in the HOF????

Thoughts????

It's a good thing one gets to name ones self here.

That's funny ****. An anonymous forum on the anonymous internet and you want people to identify themselves before offering an opinion. What would you do, Clyde, seek them out and kick their ass?

ha ha ha

Probably.

Should he be?

HELL NO!!

This is about to get very entertaining.

You sure he didn't want you to move in closer so he could crush your skull?

I think in a lawless world ... he would have gladly crushed my skull just for amusment.

My dad lied about his handicap and they easily won the tournament.

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Just like I said, someone loses their two bucks on the guy and all of a sudden hes the worst jockey in the world. Do you really think the best horse always wins the race???

This is moronic.

Truth be told, I once got put up for five figures, yes over $10K, in a Pick-3 at Belmont when my horse finished second ( it was a Richie O'Connell horse on a Monday in, probably, 1993, two days after Colonial Affair won the Belmont ) by EIGHT lengths to a Cruget horse ( trained by Mubarrak ) named Blue something. Cruget was DQ'd because he irresponsibly plowed into some horse while blowing by( this was his trademark move ) into the stretch.

He was a TERRIBLE rider.

Jean Cruguet is certainly no Jean-Luc Samyn.

You keep quoting races from when the guy was like 100 years old. YES HE SUCKED ASSS in the late 80s early 90s. So didnt Tyson at the end of his career, does that mean he doesnt belong in the Boxing hall of fame?

He drove Flying Water into the eighth pole, resulting in her death, in 1977 or 1978.

I mean for Christ sake, Early Fires is in the Hall of Fame

So, your argument is that Jean Cruget belongs in the Hall of Fame because you think the current members aren't worthy as well?

Early Fires was a MUCH better rider than Cruget.

FTFY.

Early may have been but he hid at Arlington park his whole life. He never proved anything at the A tracks, why is he in? He's like the Zenyatta of Jockeys.

Earlie went years at a time not winning any stakes races.

Greatest redboard ever!!!

Wow. Sounds like you could educate me. Taking on any students? Clearly, your jockey assessment skills are exceptional.:rolleyes: