Spreading democracy. :rolleyes:

i don't know. because i really don't think it's ultimately a winnable war. as soon as we said 'we're leaving july 2011', the enemy realized they just had to wait us out. i read one article that said no one has successfully invaded afganistan since the mongol horde and genghis khan. thing is, we're not fighting a country. you can defeat a country. but we're fighting a movement that is intact in many countries...it's not a conventional war, it can't be fought in a conventional way. plus, we are dealing with civilians who don't want us there, who have to deal with tribes and groups who really run these villages, they have opposing views from us on a variety of subjects, including educating half their population. they just have to wait...within months of our leaving, it's all going to change again. we need to turn over the country to the un and get out. then the un will have to leave because the place will explode. but whether we wait one year, ten years...i don't think the outcome will be any different.

McChrystal met with the Joint Chiefs, then Obama, then "left abruptly" before the monthly Afghanistan meeting. He's gotta be out.

I understand where Obama is coming from.. but it would be the wrong move to let the guy who put the whole plan together go. especially after actually reading the article and seeing it wasnt as bad as made out to be.

McChrystal has forgot more about the military and operations than our Commander in Chief will ever know.

Relieved of his command. Replaced by petreus.