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hockey2315 06-19-2009 04:44 PM

Miguel?

NTamm1215 06-20-2009 09:03 AM

It's a good thing there were 14 entered in the turf sprint because there are nine scratches.

NT

CSC 06-20-2009 09:32 AM

I guess Castellano likes Criticism's chances more than Lime Rickey's, on paper he's the most likely winner abit surprising he's not making the trip when this race is twice the money.

NTamm1215 06-20-2009 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC
I guess Castellano likes Criticism's chances more than Lime Rickey's, on paper he's the most likely winner abit surprising he's not making the trip when this race is twice the money.

I wouldn't read into that very much. He has three graded stakes wins on Criticism this year and an allowance win on Lime Rickey. He also needs to maintain his relationship with Darley/Godolphin, especially after the piss poor rides he gave Music Note and Tam Lin last weekend.

NT

CSC 06-20-2009 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I wouldn't read into that very much. He has three graded stakes wins on Criticism this year and an allowance win on Lime Rickey. He also needs to maintain his relationship with Darley/Godolphin, especially after the piss poor rides he gave Music Note and Tam Lin last weekend.

NT

Leparioux is probably an upgrade anyway, especially on turf. That race (Bel)turned up pretty competitive.

the_fat_man 06-20-2009 10:55 AM

This is a relatively unexplored but potentially incredibly fruitful approach to handicapping: rather than focusing on what the horse is capable of doing, focus on what the jockey agent/jockey are up to--- but not when it comes to the ride. More often than not, you'll find that your typical jockey agent/ jock is over educated, in most cases holding degrees from top 5 universities. Anyone doubting this need only watch a race and note the incredibly precise decision making by the jocks. :rolleyes:

Travis Stone 06-20-2009 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
It's a good thing there were 14 entered in the turf sprint because there are nine scratches.

NT

That's amazing.

CSC 06-20-2009 11:05 AM

And Criticism is no lock at Belmont, if it stays on turf there are some attractive choices to choose from and I am not including Dynaforce as one of them, I think you have to think these 2 are going to be well bet but aren't cinches by any means. Dogwood owned horses never elicit confidence in big money races to me. I'm going to one or both of Pletcher's depending on value and handicap that 1-13 stat is due for a 2-15 update after this race. I'll definitely put a few on Al Khali, his turf works timewise are comparable to TTP's and one work better, though admittidly an educated best guess.

eajinabi 06-20-2009 05:35 PM

Horrible ride by Lopez!! Should have never given the rail to Al Khali.

SOREHOOF 06-20-2009 06:16 PM

I thought the tri payout came back a little light.

Travis Stone 06-20-2009 08:17 PM

I thought I was watching the PBR at the top of the stretch.

Sightseek 06-20-2009 08:34 PM

I don't have a good camera for distances, but this is the view from the Turf Club -


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...stingswins.jpg

Kitty Cat Express is GIANT!

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...k/BIGfilly.jpg

Travis Stone 06-21-2009 07:45 AM

Interesting how they allow photogs actually on the turf course instead of just outside the rail.

-BT- 06-21-2009 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
I don't a good camera for distances, but this is the view from the Turf Club -


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...stingswins.jpg

Kitty Cat Express is GIANT!

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...k/BIGfilly.jpg


i was on the finish line, and the 4 was def. getting there, pretty impressive effort coming off a nx1 state bred

-bt-


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