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hi_im_god 01-06-2009 04:13 PM

why is everyone ignoring the real tragedy here?

i'd have nominated drugs post as the finest so far in 2009 and now it's gone.

GBBob 01-06-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Quiet Chris
Racist? All I was saying is they are religious wackos. That isn't racist, those are facts. We have plenty here in America too, but they don't control our government. Gaza is essentially religious wackos who want to get rid of an entire religion and country in Israel, and Israel is a country of religious wackos that put religious symbols on their flag and think God gave them a piece of land.

This is 2009. How could anyone actually believe that God wants people to blow themselves up in the name of God or that God has a country of chosen people that rightfully should have a piece of land because a book like the Bible says they do.

People that think like this are living in the stone ages.

Thank God for our founding fathers that respected religion but understood religion has no place in government.

Believing in God and believing in a man made religion are two different things. In America we respect all religions, in Gaza an Israel they don't.


Ironically, I totally agree with you about religion, but there are 8 Million Jews in the United States who probably aren't thrilled with bombs being lobbed at their people, no matter how long it has been going on. And, in my mind, that makes it extremely relevant. Not more or less than other atrocities, but compared to how you are casually dismissing this, very relevant.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-06-2009 04:45 PM

the first part of his statement may be in correct..the bush gov is pretty whacko christain..

bob looks at computer 2 times..yes i said it..:D :wf

somerfrost 01-06-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
the first part of his statement may be in correct..the bush gov is pretty whacko christain..

bob looks at computer 2 times..yes i said it..:D :wf


It's a constant struggle to keep religion out of government...to be honest, it's always a matter of degree. When Bush stared hearing the voice of god, I started getting really nervous! While we don't burn witches at the stake anymore, we don't elect them to public office either. And since many Christians
believe all non-Christians are corrupted by the devil....well, tolerating and accepting are different concepts. I prefer missionaries to armed troops but the thought process is the same....

Quiet Chris 01-06-2009 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
It's a constant struggle to keep religion out of government...to be honest, it's always a matter of degree. When Bush stared hearing the voice of god, I started getting really nervous! While we don't burn witches at the stake anymore, we don't elect them to public office either. And since many Christians
believe all non-Christians are corrupted by the devil....well, tolerating and accepting are different concepts. I prefer missionaries to armed troops but the thought process is the same....

Bush proved why religious wackos should not run anything but in all fairness to Bush, who I do not like at all, he was just a puppet. It is very obvious to any objective person that Cheney was running the show. Every important memo on any important issue came from his desk.

Quiet Chris 01-06-2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Ironically, I totally agree with you about religion, but there are 8 Million Jews in the United States who probably aren't thrilled with bombs being lobbed at their people, no matter how long it has been going on. And, in my mind, that makes it extremely relevant. Not more or less than other atrocities, but compared to how you are casually dismissing this, very relevant.

I don't really care what Israel does. It isn't America. They can defend themselves. I never understood why they were such wimps and let these crazy people constantly terrorize them. But the fact is they are not as crazy as the Arabs, but they are pretty close. Take the religious symbol off your flag and some rational people like myself might have a little more respect for them.

There are more Christians than anything else in America, but thank God we don't have a cross on our flag. Religious symbols on flags are nothing more than an illustrations of insanity.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-06-2009 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Quiet Chris
I don't really care what Israel does. It isn't America. They can defend themselves. I never understood why they were such wimps and let these crazy people constantly terrorize them. But the fact is they are not as crazy as the Arabs, but they are pretty close. Take the religious symbol off your flag and some rational people like myself might have a little more respect for them.

There are more Christians than anything else in America, but thank God we don't have a cross on our flag. Religious symbols on flags is nothing more tha illustration of insanity.

because the usa held them back..fyi.we gave them enough support over the past 30 years that they in fact could be the bully in these matters.. why does the flag bother you so much. the isrealis are a very peacefull people who have been ****ed over for years ..if every country your surrounded by wants you to be wiped off the map. you tend to be on edge..they have given land back to the palastinians in hopes of a long standing truce but it never happens..and im not jewish

GPK 01-06-2009 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
because the usa held them back..fyi.we gave them enough support over the past 30 years that they in fact could be the bully in these matters.. why does the flag bother you so much. the isrealis are a very peacefull people who have been ****ed over for years ..if every country your surrounded by wants you to be wiped off the map. you tend to be on edge..they have given land back to the palastinians in hopes of a long standing truce but it never happens..and im not jewish


well, there goes every pre-concieved notion I had about you out the window.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-06-2009 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
well, there goes every pre-concieved notion I had about you out the window.

red-neck yankee..:D

GPK 01-06-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
red-neck yankee..:D

:mad:
:tro:

3kings 01-06-2009 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
This type of (non) thinking is the basis for the pretty much all the world's problems...I know you won't accept the reason why we must care...but the worth of a single life isn't determined by what they do for you! This is tragic and...as always...the innocent suffer. Why should we care? How can we not? You call these people "neanderthals" yet you express a complete lack of humanity...the trait most often displayed by advanced intellect and sociological development.....next time you feel the need to dehumanize people...take a long look in the mirror!

Very well said.

Quiet Chris 01-06-2009 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
because the usa held them back..fyi.we gave them enough support over the past 30 years that they in fact could be the bully in these matters.. why does the flag bother you so much. the isrealis are a very peacefull people who have been ****ed over for years ..if every country your surrounded by wants you to be wiped off the map. you tend to be on edge..they have given land back to the palastinians in hopes of a long standing truce but it never happens..and im not jewish

The USA held them back? What are we their daddy? They should do whatever they need to do and we should stop giving all these crazy countries money. It isn't our problem. I am Irish and English. I could have cared less if the crazy Catholics and Protestants blew each other up in Ireland. That is their problem, not mine, and not any other US taxpayer. This crap has been going on since the beginning of time and the US did great before it started getting involved with all these crazy people.

The flag doesn't bother me at all. I don't think twice about countries the size of New Jersey until my tax dollar starts being thrown down the sewer giving them aid they don't need. If they want people to take them seriously as a democracy instead of a theocracy, like crazy countries like Saudi Arabia, then maybe they should use something a little more secular. Why should people that are not Jewish that live there have to look at their national flag with a religious symbol on it?

Only crazy people base a country on religion. That is why the Middle East is a mess of crazy people.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-06-2009 07:04 PM

yes we to a point a are or were the daddy..during the 30s through the 2k we the usa have had managed intrest in the well bieng of isreal and the region. but hey you dont really care for a history lesson..so damn the rest of the world ..we be just fine here in the us of a!!:eek: :tro:

Quiet Chris 01-06-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
yes we to a point a are or were the daddy..during the 30s through the 2k we the usa have had managed intrest in the well bieng of isreal and the region. but hey you dont really care for a history lesson..so damn the rest of the world ..we be just fine here in the us of a!!:eek: :tro:

I am well aware of the history. The only reason the US cares is because of the oil that is there. This country needs to get the hell off foreign oil by investing in alternative energy and more drilling in the US. It is disgraceful my President has to deal with these wackos and call up OPEC and ask them to pump more oil.

If the US got off foreign oil we wouldn't have to worry about these crazy religious people in the middle east. Israel and the Arabs can blow each other up and the US should care less. They have been fighting forever and always will because they insist on clinging to ridiculous stone age ideas of religion.

Every time these religious wackos in Israel and Gaza start fighting the price of gas goes up. So basically my gas costs more because of neanderthals in the middle east. Ridiculous.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-06-2009 08:21 PM

WOW..first off your oil is so expensive because the fat bastards at the round table at exxon and b p. and they use any excuse possible to jack you..the tree huggers are second..the opec folks third..why should we care less..they would be one of the only democratic countrys in the area..

hi_im_god 01-06-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Quiet Chris
I am well aware of the history. The only reason the US cares is because of the oil that is there. This country needs to get the hell off foreign oil by investing in alternative energy and more drilling in the US. It is disgraceful my President has to deal with these wackos and call up OPEC and ask them to pump more oil.

If the US got off foreign oil we wouldn't have to worry about these crazy religious people in the middle east. Israel and the Arabs can blow each other up and the US should care less. They have been fighting forever and always will because they insist on clinging to ridiculous stone age ideas of religion.

Every time these religious wackos in Israel and Gaza start fighting the price of gas goes up. So basically my gas costs more because of neanderthals in the middle east. Ridiculous.

explain again how u.s. support of israel is because of oil. i must have missed something in the logic death spiral that led to that conclusion.

GBBob 01-06-2009 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Quiet Chris
I am well aware of the history. The only reason the US cares is because of the oil that is there. This country needs to get the hell off foreign oil by investing in alternative energy and more drilling in the US. It is disgraceful my President has to deal with these wackos and call up OPEC and ask them to pump more oil.

If the US got off foreign oil we wouldn't have to worry about these crazy religious people in the middle east. Israel and the Arabs can blow each other up and the US should care less. They have been fighting forever and always will because they insist on clinging to ridiculous stone age ideas of religion.

Every time these religious wackos in Israel and Gaza start fighting the price of gas goes up. So basically my gas costs more because of neanderthals in the middle east. Ridiculous.


but..

Why does anyone care what happens with these countries. It isn't like they matter. They have no oil

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-06-2009 08:43 PM

Every time these religious wackos in Israel and Gaza start fighting the price of gas goes up. So basically my gas costs more because of neanderthals in the middle east. Ridiculous.[/quote]

thats one large anti semetic statement..im quite possitive you dont have a ****ing clue about anything outside your apt building.dont make the mistake of grouping the hamas and the people of isreal in same fanatical tone.

Honu 01-06-2009 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
:rolleyes:

:p


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