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blackthroatedwind 11-25-2008 05:22 PM

Monterey Jazz is now running in the Cigar.

Linny 11-25-2008 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Monterey Jazz is now running in the Cigar.

Was that intended to impress me?

When he's right he's a pretty good horse. There's not much out there but with Commentator and Magna Graduate and Einstein in KY there's not much left.

blackthroatedwind 11-25-2008 05:41 PM

No, I just saw it on DRF, and found it interesting and surprising. It certainly adds a lot to the race.

Linny 11-25-2008 07:14 PM

Without the pp's I don't remember if his tailing off coincided with Polytrack ala Arson Squad. Obviously he's pretty deadly on the lead and Commentator's absence leaves a spot in the front of the race.

blackthroatedwind 11-25-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny
Without the pp's I don't remember if his tailing off coincided with Polytrack ala Arson Squad. Obviously he's pretty deadly on the lead and Commentator's absence leaves a spot in the front of the race.


You're badly confused. He didn't tail off.....he ran a monster race, albeit while setting a very slow pace, in the Texas Mile and then was injured preparing for the Met Mile.

Linny 11-25-2008 07:20 PM

I must be thinking of some other horse. Now that you reminded me of the Texas race, I remember Monterey Jazz. Now I remember that he was hurt. Now I have to figure out who I was thinking of that tailed off, in addition to Arson Squad...

blackthroatedwind 11-25-2008 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny
I must be thinking of some other horse. Now that you reminded me of the Texas race, I remember Monterey Jazz. Now I remember that he was hurt. Now I have to figure out who I was thinking of that tailed off, in addition to Arson Squad...

It's a long list.

asudevil 11-25-2008 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You're badly confused. He didn't tail off.....he ran a monster race, albeit while setting a very slow pace, in the Texas Mile and then was injured preparing for the Met Mile.

That ****in' Lone Star surface hurts a lot of horses.....Place sucks.

philcski 11-26-2008 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by asudevil
That ****in' Lone Star surface hurts a lot of horses.....Place sucks.

I disagree... they actually have a really good dirt surface. Monterey Jazz is just really fast, which almost by corollary means he's fragile. In fact I think he was injured in training at Belmont, if I recall correctly.

I'm excited for his return.

VOL JACK 11-26-2008 01:03 PM

It would be amazing if we could handicap the race.
NYRA dont want to release the PP's until 36 hours before the race is run.

It's 2pm EST and Fridays PP's still aren't up.

asudevil 11-26-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I disagree... they actually have a really good dirt surface. Monterey Jazz is just really fast, which almost by corollary means he's fragile. In fact I think he was injured in training at Belmont, if I recall correctly.

I'm excited for his return.

Sorry Bro. 2 weeks after MJ raced in the Texas Mile....The Lone Star Derby on 5/10/08:

El Gato Malo...winner, undisclosed injury when he got back to CA, out 7 months.

Samba Rooster...2nd...Done, Career Over. Came up lame a week after the race.

Limestone Edge...4th...Crack in right front ankle upon return to CA, out 7 months.

Coincidence??

Maybe a good surface for Bret Calhoun's string of horses

Danzig 11-26-2008 08:31 PM

Monterey Jazz suffered a hind foot fracture in a workout at Hollywood Park before he was scheduled to ship for the Met Mile.

that came from an article on drf.

Phalaris1913 11-28-2008 10:10 AM

My general impression over recent years is that there is a strong preference for upgrading turf stakes, especially ones with age and/or gender restrictions.

I don't agree with that.


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