I'm not saying that all the information in those articles is false. I am saying that it is one-sided and biased.

If you were watching a trial, could you come to a fair verdict if you only listened to the prosecution case and not the defense? No, of course not. That is not necessarily because the prosecution's case contains lies. It is because the prosecution's case may have many half-truths and the prosecution is going to only try to present evidence that will help their case.

Oh.

So you've been reading Stevie Hasbeen?






The primary thing here being-----whether there is expert commentary or not---there will always be copious back and forth on yer whatnot regardless of what yer whatnot is.

I love it when it reaches the name calling stage...and questioning an opponents family tree.Before you know it;the whole thing becomes a series of uninspiring death threats and failed to do so.....bett-ing.


But the whole mess can quickly come apart if GenuineCrazyLady voices her outrageous opinions.....and directs little catty barbs Dannies way.

and many of them were repentant of those views later in life.

george wallace quietly visited black churches asking forgiveness for the harm he had done earlier in his life.

while that was going on, jesse helms sang dixie to the first african american woman elected to the senate promising he'd keep it up "until she cried".

i think i have his entire life in perspective when i say the world is better off without him and those that share his views.

Not defending Helms by any means, but backwards views based on whose standards? Many people in the South view politicians views from the Northeast or California "backwards"

Again...I am far from defending Sen. Helms. Many of his beliefs were deplorable, at best. But they were his beliefs, his convictions and he stood by them. At least with him, you knew where he stood. As opposed to a great majority of politicians today, Rep. and Dem alike, who only say what people want to hear, whether they actually believe it or not. The state of todays politcians is criminal, at best. I would would hate to see and United States where everyone thought, acted and believed the same thing. Me personally, I could give two sh*ts about what others believe, as long as they stand strong in their convictions. Much more respect for people like that as opposed to people pleasers.

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Working BESIDE.....ME!!!!?

My fine Negro American friends....please.

I am only parodying the mindless JohnnyRebs of the world.









Do not harm me in any way.

When I talked about backward views, I was referring to the racist attitudes of the 1950s. That is all I was referring to. And I'm only referring to true racism. We all have different views of what true racism is. To me, true racism is when a person basically dislikes all the members of a certain race. I'm sure others have a far broader view.

you're better than this nonsense.

i'm not going to come on here and defend the iranian president or osama bin ladin because they are steadfast in their beliefs. and neither are you.

we're both going to look at their beliefs and judge them on our own moral scale.

jesse helms was an unrepentant racist. he had a 18th century mind.

i'm okay with that point of view disappearing from our political landscape. and advocating tolerance for intolerance is asinine. i hope you respect my strong opinion on that.

I never mentioned a voting record.

He could have voted on the same side as Ted Kennedy on
a number of bills. This does not tell me as much about the
man as his own statements and actions.

His record is long and there for anyone to see and judge.
I judge him to be intolerant and unpatriotic based on what
this country is supposed to be. This is my opinion, my judgement.
I have my own ideas about this country's central tenets, it may not be exactly like others.

For one little example if you wish, because there are many:
Look up his role in the funding of the Contra rebels and
then look up his views on aide to foreign countries and his
views on the United State's role in dealing with foreign aide.

A huge contradiction, no pun intended.

This has nothing to do with his archaic civil rights views
for which he has made his true fame.

Morton this is a sort of smart thread.
Look something up for God's sake!

Participate, remember clowns are born evil.
-John Wayne Gacy

I respect any opinion you may have...its your right as a human being

Perhaps you should take off those Phil colored glasses and check again as to how smart this thread really is.

































GOD AH LOVE ME!!!!!!!!!!

You mentioned his voting record. Here is your quote: "1. Because his 'voting record' and stances indicate intolerance towards democracy and what the United States means in imo."

I'm not sure I understand your point about the Iran/Contra deal. It sounds like you're saying that Helms was generally not big on foreign aid, but he was in favor of funding the Contras. What is wrong with that? It's good if a politician is open-minded and judges each situation on it's own merits as opposed to "always being against foreign aid" no matter what.

In terms of his actions, he had African-Americans in top positions on his staff. Actions speak louder than words. If he was such a racist, why would he have people of color in top positions on his staff?

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..there Are Strange Creatures Swinging From You Personal Family Tree!

Oops my bad.

The Contra's were not supposed to be funded by law.
So not only does he not believe in funding, he goes against
the law.

OK guys...touch gloves and continue beating each other with stupid putty.





I'm due in make up in 2 minutes.

thats what happens when part of that trees roots are from WVa:o