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Scav 03-04-2008 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush
I think it may be foolist to try to beat Daytona, strictly on the "Mike Smith" off angle which has netted us so many winners over the past couple years.
:)

And Solis is better? I agree that both have had their moments, but they both fit certain horses now. Solis does not fit Daytona. It pains me to tout against Daytona because he has been so good to me (nailed him singled on the end of pick threes for Del Mar, Hollywood and SA wins for 4 figure scores) but I am telling you, go back and see what Solis did with this horse when he rode him, and then look at the difference when Smith rode him.

Daytona will not win with Solis on his back. I really hope that Smith rides him when he comes to Arlington because he will win the Million if he does

philcski 03-04-2008 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
He had a brutal trip in the Holy Bull - hung very wide on both turns.

started from post 13 in the HB. had a rough trip in the La Derby, too, and only got beat 3-4 lengths by a very good horse (Peace Rules).

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
She'll lose eventually. I just don't think it's Saturday. Obviously there is no pace, which helps IB out a ton, but I also think she's that much better than Proud Spell.

I agree. I'm hoping she's undefeated heading into the Ky Oaks, where I will UNLOAD against her. The Churchill stretch will cause her to drop anchor and another bomb will win.

Sightseek 03-04-2008 09:34 AM

It's going to take a serious effort for Euroears to go 6 for 6 on Saturday.

lemoncrush 03-04-2008 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
And Solis is better? I agree that both have had their moments, but they both fit certain horses now. Solis does not fit Daytona. It pains me to tout against Daytona because he has been so good to me (nailed him singled on the end of pick threes for Del Mar, Hollywood and SA wins for 4 figure scores) but I am telling you, go back and see what Solis did with this horse when he rode him, and then look at the difference when Smith rode him.

Daytona will not win with Solis on his back. I really hope that Smith rides him when he comes to Arlington because he will win the Million if he does

I was mostly kidding. Solis has killed me more times than I care to remember with bad rides, but lately he's been surprisingly above average. May just be on the main track, though, as I can't remember him getting me a horse home on the lawn in a long time.

Scav 03-04-2008 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I agree. I'm hoping she's undefeated heading into the Ky Oaks, where I will UNLOAD against her. The Churchill stretch will cause her to drop anchor and another bomb will win.

Even if she runs 2nd here they will bet the **** out of her at Churchill

brianwspencer 03-04-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I agree. I'm hoping she's undefeated heading into the Ky Oaks, where I will UNLOAD against her. The Churchill stretch will cause her to drop anchor and another bomb will win.

I'd be more than happy to see that happen, too. She should win again on Saturday which just moves it one step closer to her being unbeaten and insanely bet on Oaks day.

She's definitely not my favorite.

Travis Stone 03-04-2008 02:19 PM

Tale of Ekati has never won beyond 7 furlongs, nor around two turns. He's coming off a big layoff and they select this race for the return?

SniperSB23 03-04-2008 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Tale of Ekati has never won beyond 7 furlongs, nor around two turns. He's coming off a big layoff and they select this race for the return?

Same scenario for Majestic Warrior.

Travis Stone 03-04-2008 02:55 PM

Yeah, they both look like rush jobs with the KD in mind.

Scav 03-04-2008 03:01 PM

I can tell you this, if you find the winner of the turf race (Race 7), you will be able to get 35/1 or 45/1 on the Pk4, with Pyro (3/5), Indian Blessing (2/5) and Grasshopper (1/1). Good value as long as Daytona loses. How I would do it

Grasshopper($4.80)/Daytona($6.40)/Indian Blessing($3.40)/Pyro($3.80) paid $45 per $1 last time

If you find the winner and you can turn a bunch of chalk 'locks' into 45/1, not bad

blackthroatedwind 03-04-2008 03:03 PM

Why are you conceding the race to Grasshopper? I'm not saying he isn't the likeliest winner but what if he doesn't get the same perfect trip he got last time?

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-04-2008 03:05 PM

and how will you beat daytona . solis is not the answer.......

blackthroatedwind 03-04-2008 03:09 PM

Daytona looks too good to be true.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-04-2008 03:11 PM

tha tagg runner may do it ..

blackthroatedwind 03-04-2008 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
tha tagg runner may do it ..

He or Proudinsky are the logical other horses. Not a very compelling field that's for sure.

jcs11204 03-04-2008 03:22 PM

buffalo man... pyro is not a lock.
grasshopper and indian blessing are

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-04-2008 03:27 PM

mag graduate ..2nd off the layoff first blinks..take it to the bank..and prado..

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-04-2008 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
It's going to take all the Pletcher magic in the world to get him home my friend, IMO.

you can count on robbie fng up one ride..maybe two.. and who knows if allday wil be in town..:eek:

Coach Pants 03-04-2008 04:10 PM

I keep trying to convince myself that Encaustic will upset.


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