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Cannon Shell 01-04-2008 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
He's got no shot. ;)

Ok waffle boy

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-04-2008 06:11 PM

the race odds changing at the1/4 pole is normal as the late betting gets put in the pool after its started ..its not a regular practice.. but this post betting is a rareity.. im more worried about jockys who dont ride all the way......

golfer 01-04-2008 06:11 PM

For whatever it's worth, the only first hand experience I have had with past posting was a little over 10 years ago, at an OTB in Suffern. While betting Yonkers we had been made aware by a fairly big bettor that the windows were staying open at least 15 to 20 seconds after the car opened the gates... we would simply box the horses who went for the lead, a huge adavantage at Yonkers back then, and also one that would not show up on the odds board (and when I write "we", I mean they, as I was anything but a big bettor). So I have seen it firsthand, although it was a long time ago, and it was Harness.
But this experience does lead me to believe it CAN still be happening, at any time, at any race track around the country. And we, the betting public, don't have any information on the special access that certain "whales" get into the betting pools. NO ONE, no matter how much they bet, should have any special advantages.

Scav 01-04-2008 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
Yep, the whole business is a mess, no doubt.

Are you a Saluki grad? My wife, the much smarter half of our union, is a graduate.

Yes I am, my degree is toilet paper though (Marketing). When did she go down there?

cmorioles 01-04-2008 06:14 PM

Mid 90s (1997?), did it as an adult weekends and nights. Masters from OU...she is still with me though, so maybe she isn't as bright as I thought.

cmorioles 01-04-2008 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
... but this post betting is a rareity.....

How do you know?

I've got waffles to make, beer to brew, and have to coach a few female tennis players in the morning, so I'm off to bed.

Cannon Shell 01-04-2008 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
How do you know?

I've got waffles to make, beer to brew, and have to coach a few female tennis players in the morning, so I'm off to bed.

Don't forget the bobsled workouts

SentToStud 01-04-2008 06:20 PM

I think past posting goes on. I think it all happens very soon after the start of the race and gets put through in the "flood" of wagers that "hit the system" all at once. No doubt in my mind it happens.

Reminds me of the old days at Maywood when the bell didn't go off until the horses had almost hit the first turn. The $50 window tellers were working solely for a few people with 1mtp or less. The bettor would call the horse that got off the gate the best and the teller would punch as many $50 win tickets as possible.

The biggest fixes were when the horse that left the gate quickest and got the lead broke stride in the first turn.

Flukey Stokes, Buddy Bear, Willy The Wimp. Those boys ruled the clubhouse.

Payson Dave 01-04-2008 06:29 PM

....I can take a hint....I'll discuss the 8th at Turfway elsewhere...:rolleyes:

Cannon Shell 01-04-2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
You're flipping more than Mitt Romney here. First you blew off what you said, now you are admitting it.

My comment was directed at you, because you made the initial comment. But I wasn't complaining to you. Just pointing out you were incorrect the first time.

No, you are not voice of backside USA, but you like to play it here sometimes. Can't really have it both ways. I'm sure you would have called someone out on a s hitty comment as well. it's okay to be wrong sometimes, the Dee Tee faithful will still love you and defend you blindly.

Huh? How can I flip about what I said? It is right there in black and white. You and CJ seem to have some personal anomisity with your snide comments. I dont know why but suit yourself.

Cannon Shell 01-04-2008 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
I think past posting goes on. I think it all happens very soon after the start of the race and gets put through in the "flood" of wagers that "hit the system" all at once. No doubt in my mind it happens.

Reminds me of the old days at Maywood when the bell didn't go off until the horses had almost hit the first turn. The $50 window tellers were working solely for a few people with 1mtp or less. The bettor would call the horse that got off the gate the best and the teller would punch as many $50 win tickets as possible.

The biggest fixes were when the horse that left the gate quickest and got the lead broke stride in the first turn.

Flukey Stokes, Buddy Bear, Willy The Wimp. Those boys ruled the clubhouse.

I'm sure that in the old days past posting happened with a far more frequent degree than it does now.

Cannon Shell 01-04-2008 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Nothing personal man. I didn't care for your comment, that's it.

I guess not since you are still bringing it up a month later.

Coach Pants 01-04-2008 07:08 PM

I miss having a rattle.

Cannon Shell 01-04-2008 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cmfhb411
So not allowing any horses to enter the starting gate until the stewards have confirmed all wagering pools have closed, still isn't a good idea ?

Are we learning yet ? :D

They did this in KY after the BC scandal and stopped because of complaints from the players, Mr Teacher.

Scav 01-04-2008 11:29 PM

They did it at Arlington and people were bitching up a storm about how they were 'in the gate' and yadda yadda.

No one is ever happy about anything. Someone is always pissed off


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