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SniperSB23 04-14-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Polytrack is going to ruin this game. I know its better for the horses, but how the hell do you handicap this stuff?????????????????? A turf horse wins a stakes on the POlY. I'm glad for Mandella though. Good guy.

It's not that hard, just treat it as an equal surface for dirt and turf horses and give the advantage to closers.

ateamstupid 04-14-2007 04:46 PM

Teuflesberg has to break well. I like Dominican's chances a lot.

fpsoxfan 04-14-2007 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
It's not that hard, just treat it as an equal surface for dirt and turf horses and give the advantage to closers.

It's just that I really looked forward to the Keenland Meet. I've never been there but I heard it's very similar to Saratoga. Speed on the inside used to rule at Keenland. Oh well, I'll have to adapt.

fpsoxfan 04-14-2007 04:49 PM

3 Mtp
 
Street sense is grabbing a Ton of late cash. Even Money. Just showed a clip on Carl Nafzger. Kind of interesting. Still think that scene with that old lady owner was kind of weird.

pmacdaddy 04-14-2007 04:49 PM

I have 2,4,7 / 1,7 to complete the pick4. I am just gonna watch and root for Dominican.

fpsoxfan 04-14-2007 04:55 PM

C'mon
 
A quarter in 26???????????? Hello. How does Zangero not win this. It's Dominocon. The value just increased in the future pools on Street Sense.

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-14-2007 04:56 PM

carry over?

Payson Dave 04-14-2007 04:57 PM

What did they come the final quater in??

TitanSooner 04-14-2007 05:01 PM

how did teuflesburg not get placed below great hunter?

SniperSB23 04-14-2007 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner
how did teuflesburg not get placed below great hunter?

Pretty ridiculous, that seemed a no brainer.

Cannon Shell 04-14-2007 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner
how did teuflesburg not get placed below great hunter?

stewards seeing the world differently than they rest of us as usual

Cannon Shell 04-14-2007 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Teuflesberg has to break well. I like Dominican's chances a lot.

nice call

pmacdaddy 04-14-2007 05:05 PM

Anyone have pick4 will pays for 1,7.

Sorry to be a pain. Thanks

SniperSB23 04-14-2007 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
What did they come the final quater in??

Final 3 furlongs was 34.68

TitanSooner 04-14-2007 05:07 PM

think they forget that people do play supers..

ateamstupid 04-14-2007 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
nice call

Thank you sir. Didn't play him though. :mad:

Payson Dave 04-14-2007 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Final 3 furlongs was 34.68

Solid fraction...but still think the stretch run should not take too much out of SS

philcski 04-14-2007 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
R5: I really like #11 Scarlett's Place's chances in this race at 10-1. In her debut at Hol, she got slammed at the start, then rushed up between horses to grab 2nd behind a solid favorite, then weakened late to get nailed at the wire for 2nd. She will be much improved in this race, and while I respect the Pletcher filly speed is very poor on the Poly as we all know, which leaves the #10 (who ran super in her debut) off a long layoff as the other main contender.

R6: I feel very uncomfortable singling Wait a While on the soft turf, but she just may be that good. Since the start of '06 she has had exactly one poor effort, a disappointing 3rd in the Bonnie Miss. Getting beat 4 lengths in the BC by the other 2 best turf fillies in America and the best turf mare in the world isn't a bad effort, especially considering she was somewhat wide throughout. I really can't make a case for anyone else in here and would feel like I was throwing away money if I don't single her and she wins.

R7: A messy race I have no real strong opinion in, I will use 5 in the P4 and P6 and hope to survive- the 2,3,5,8, and 9.

R8: Steel Light is a beast. If he takes to the poly at ALL, he is unquestionably the one to beat. Missing all of '06 would be a huge black mark but he answered any questions about his physical condition in the Appleton, running a troubled second to Silver Tree who on talent alone is better than anyone else in here. Ramsgate is also a must use for obvious reasons; and the "most likeliest" winner outside of Midnight Lute. Ryan's for Real may or may not be for real; running a super 2nd to multiple G1 winner Silver Wagon at that guy's ideal distance/setup after dueling on the front end gives me hope that at 12-1 or higher he IS for real. Gin and Sin is a cut below these, but might be a good exotics add. Silent Name will likely take more action then I'd be interested in from a standalone race basis but I will not let him beat me in multirace wagers. I have no interest in the remaining group.

R9: Not much to discuss here that isn't already known; punch the 4 and 7 in multirace wagers and enjoy the battle. I can make a case for Zanjero and Dominican underneath but would be hard pressed to have them on top.

R10: Coming off the turf may be beneficial from a perspective of doping out this race. I will be using the 1 prominently, with the 4,7,8 as well. Has Kee Poly experience and success, and turns back off a marathon with a couple nice breezes in between that should sharpen her up.

P6 play:
4,10,11/2/8,9/4,5,7/4,7/1 $72
4,10,11/2/2,3,5/4,5,7/4,7/1 $108
4,10,11/2/8,9/6,8,10/4,7/1 $72

Total cost: $252

P4 play:
2,3,5,8,9/4,5,7/4,7/1,4,7,8 $120
2,3,5,8,9/4,5,6,7,8,10/4,7/1 $60

Total cost: $180 for $1

Another day, another brutal loss. That's 2 p4's busted by a nose in a row. :( I can't win anywhere these days.

Bigsmc 04-14-2007 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pmacdaddy
Anyone have pick4 will pays for 1,7.

Sorry to be a pain. Thanks

Nice hit pmac.

Had the 8,11 myself.

Rats

Sightseek 04-14-2007 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Another day, another brutal loss. That's 2 p4's busted by a nose in a row. :( I can't win anywhere these days.

I caught your Pletcher disease!!!


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