Originally Posted by dalakhani

LOL. Charles barkley and doug collins are idiots. Broussard doesnt know what he is talking about. But suddenly, maurice evans is a genius. LOL Even funnier is that Broussard use to be the cavs beat writer although i think that was before the great delonte came to town.

Try again Chuck. Im still waiting to hear again that Trevor Ariza is a bum and Delonte West is a much better player. :)

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I have a hard time understanding why Dala is so gaga over the Lakers. They have two really good players, one good player who is hurting, a fair young guy (Bynum- who simply isnt in shape) and a bunch of bums who dont really have any idea of what they are doing and/or are afraid of getting yelled at by Kobe. Why anyone would think they have a prayer against Cleveland is beyond me. They will beat Houston at home because they cant expect Scola and Brooks to play that well again and Darth Stern will have the refs make sure it happens (and as bad as the refs have been no one will be able to tell the difference)

As good as Denver is playing they will beat LA a few times and i never thought that they could.

The other series is awful. Orlando played poorly, shot FT's horrifically and still closed out Boston last night. The funny thing about Boston is that they are totally dead yet are still in this series. The Bulls series while exciting showed that they are pretty well finished because honestly the Bulls arent very good.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving:) :tro:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What exactly is wrong about what I said? They won and played well but they hardly cruised through the field like you were implying. They did beat Houston, denver did beat them a few times, Bynum didnt do much, the good players played well, and the Celtics know what I said was correct as they are trying to make a big move again this offseason. Seems like most of what I said was right. As usual.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

i agree with this and i actually agree with the argument that this Laker team is probably the worst i have seen besides the 07 spurs team which was really bad. I think this team beats that 07 spurs team hands down.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Ariza still a bum?

Originally Posted by pgardn

Of course I dont.
That Spurs team played much better defense
than any of the teams we have seen the past 2years.
Not even close.

The Spurs boring teams are easy to pick on.
They just won games almost every fourth quarter
by playing superior help D. That D is now very old,
very slow, and the Spurs are very bad.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

no he is pretty good. Surely steroids are to blame for his improvement.

Originally Posted by pgardn

Of course I dont.
That Spurs team played much better defense
than any of the teams we have seen the past 2years.
Not even close.

The Spurs boring teams are easy to pick on.
They just won games almost every fourth quarter
by playing superior help D. That D is now very old,
very slow, and the Spurs are very bad.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

LOL, alright i think this dead horse has been adequately beaten. On to the next topic.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

honestly if he was a baseball player dont you think someone would have written a story questioning how a guy who was a horrific three point shooter suddenly becomes Steve Kerr from behind the line? Not that steroids have anything to do with it and it isnt like baseball doesnt have its issues but it is interesting how different sports are covered.

If I said that LeBron james or Kobe bryant or Randy Moss or Ladainan Tomlison would dominate thier sports in the late 50's or early 60's no one would disagree. But if I said that Albert Pujols would be the best righthanded hitter in baseball in the same timeframe virtually everyone would disagree.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

It could be argued that that team was given a ride into the championship game after the fight with Phoenix. The cleveland team they beat was about the worst championship finalist ever.

That spurs team would have gotten beaten by this laker team in my opinion.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I used to go watch Mario Elie play for the Patroons in the CBA (coached by George Karl at the time). Guy was a heck of a player but couldn't hit an outside shot which was why he wasn't in the NBA. Suddenly it clicks and the guy made a pretty good NBA career mainly as an outside shooter.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I used to go watch Mario Elie play for the Patroons in the CBA (coached by George Karl at the time). Guy was a heck of a player but couldn't hit an outside shot which was why he wasn't in the NBA. Suddenly it clicks and the guy made a pretty good NBA career mainly as an outside shooter. More recently the Patroons had Jamario Moon. His first year there it was a running joke between me and my friends of how poor of a defender he was. His second year he won Defensive Player of the Year and was onto the NBA where he's primarily a defensive stopper. Weird how it just clicks for guys in basketball.

Originally Posted by pgardn

The Spurs beat a bad Knicks team in 99,
a bad NJ team in 03, a decent Detroit team in 05,
a bad Cleveland team in 07. The Spurs have never
beaten a good team in any playoff.

We are not on the West or East coast, we cant be good.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

before Isiah killed the CBA

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The spurs have been the most consistently good team in the NBA over the course of the last 15-20 years. The team that lost to the Lakers in 04 should have won the title. In those years the spurs made it to the title round, getting past the western conference final was really the championship. They beat some tough teams those years.

07 was a funky year and the stars aligned. Golden State took care of the topseeded Mavs that year and then there was the controversial fight with Phoenix. I dont think anyone in their right mind would tell you that San Antonio was the best team in the west in 2007. It was a very weak year and in the east it was even weaker which resulted in the worst finals in recent memory...in my opnion.

Originally Posted by pgardn

People said the same thing about all of those playoffs
that I mentioned. Everyone of them. When they beat NY
in the shortened season, Phil Jackson said put an * next
to that championship.

The series with Detroit was a disappointment ratings wise
so the teams were both obviously bad. You have to beat
a good LA team or a good Boston team to be considered
legitimate champions.

Conclusion:
The Spurs got lucky every year, one way or another.
Just not flashy enough. That does not work in this NBA.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Oh I think the whole "our team doesnt get the credit it deserves" thing is pretty bunk.

Originally Posted by pgardn

So you think the Spurs on the West coast or East
Coast would be treated the same...
I say no way.

Duncan would be a God in Boston.

Last night they crew on ABC/ESPN went
through the best big men in the past 3 years.
Garnett, Gasol, Shaq and Howard.

No mention of Duncan.
Obviously the votes
for all star donts see it like this nor do the coaches.

Sure, its all bunk.