They call that forearm when a guy is going to the basket(without being blocked,) and a defender is guarding him(not blocking him.) It's called when someone is trying to get more room against a defender who's legally guarding him. Tonite, this was a block, and a forearm. Why has Gasol turned his body sideways? It's because he's illegally blocked by someone who is not in that spot soon enough to own that spot. He's not there soon enough. So, he must give ground, or it's a blocking foul. He's blocking him. So, Gasol has to turn sideways, or they will hit heads. If no block, then no forearm. The forearm is put out to protect the ball from someone illegally blocking him. He didn't use the forearm to gain room from someone guarding him legally. He did it because he's been turned sideways by an illegal block, and he's protecting the ball. In that situation, the block is what is normally called. People don't want it called in this situation ,because

1)It's the 6th foul on NENE.

and

2) Nene was close to having position( but he's clearly still moving.) Would of been an offensive foul if the defender wasn't blocking totally. He needs to give ground, but he's a retarded thug. So ,he thinks he has established position. He hasn't. He's moving. See, this is what people are ignoring about many of these Denver players(they simply aren't playing smart enough.) He ignores the rules, and complains on almost every call. He has had atleast 5 fouls each game. Not like he respects the rules on how to play defense.

I know just like Tuesday night as well. That clear foul by Howard on Varejao with 0.5 second left when he hooked Varejao's arm and pulled him down flopping, begging for the foul. Like when with 6 seconds left after Pietrus bricked the 3 pointer and West had a clear path to the ball and Howard slammed him to the floor denying him, and Orlando got the ball setting up Lewis' three?? Like the clear offensive goaltending call on Howard in the overtime that wasn't called?? You mean horribly reffed games like that??

Yeah, I agree. Bad reffing is in the eye of the viewer. People see what they want to see. You have an agenda watching these games as do I.

What games do you watch dala?? Is my first paragraph really what happened, or am I making stuff up?? You make the call. There are two sides to every story. My side is every bit as legitimate as your made up stuff. There is no league conspiracy, and it galls me to see my team down 3-1 and people still insisting on how one sided the refs call their games because of one player they were fortunate enough to get. It's complete insanity.

You have 7 foot people moving at the speed of light, the refs do the best they can for the most part. I would have huge problems calling an NBA game.

The agenda of many on this thread is to make LeBron James an overrated, league created non-entity not worthy of anything. A horrendous shooting, selfish, moronic un-intelligent basketball player who is handed gifts by the referees every game. The most overrated athlete ever to walk the planet. That is fine. Just realize what it is. Taken at face value it seems pretty silly to me, what is written here. He may be that. For me, he is the best athlete in my lifetime to play for a Cleveland professional team and he pretty much saved the franchise. They were a 17 win team when he got there. Morty would say it is Ilgauskas and Eric Snow and Drew Gooden and Varijao who saved the franchise, I would have to disagree. The team has their best season ever, and I read how it was only because of the referees. It's stupendously insane in my opinion to reason that with any logic or common sense. He gets a call now and then...wow. I mean wow. Never happened before I guess. He's the first one in league history?? OK. There is no league agenda to put Cleveland in the finals. None. If they got there it would be because they got there. Nothing more, nothing less.

Y'all enjoy yourselves. I'm having a great time watching the melt down again. It's lots of fun. And I know if by some incredible happening the Cavs come back and win the series, it won't be because Mo Williams started shooting like Mo Williams or LeBron doing something great, it will be because the refs simply handed it to them. The script is set. They lose, LeBron is a loser, moron who can't play in the clutch or they win and the refs handed it to him. Fun stuff. Can't beat it.

Whine whine whine.

\ a respected JOURNALIST for one of the oldest newspapers in the country. I think this trumps your "blog" cannon. You will have to find a column or article to trump this:)

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He was handed the chance to force overtime on a very suspect call with 0.5 seconds remaining, when he tripped and charged head first into Mickael Pietrus, who tried everything in his power to back out of his way. After James made the free throws to tie the game, I got several text messages from friends who thought the fix was in. I was scratching my head, too. The call was terrible, but I understand superstars get borderline calls in the final seconds. My first thought, however, was: When was James going to shoot the ball, actually? He fell down with less than a second left and had yet to look at the rim. If Cleveland won the game after that call, you would have seen conspiracy theorists going berserk for a long time.

Ok a Wizards blog is sure to be the final unbiased place to settle the matter.:tro:

So tonight I'm thinking Lebron goes off for 50, the rest of the Cavs get hot from 3, Orlando goes cold and the Cavs cruise to a 120-95 win. The media goes nuts for Cleveland tomorrow saying they've solved Orlando and they go back to Orlando Saturday and lay an egg.

I don't know. Though I fully expect it to be 8-on-5 tonight (I wish I didn't), I was sure the Cavs would murder the Magic in Game 2 also. The only way tonight's game is a blowout is if Howard either gets called for bogus fouls or goes back to being passive. He was exposed for his flaws in the Celtics series but he's showing his strengths in this series. The Cavs' bigs can't guard him.

You are just a clown now.

They will have 13 refs present this game to make it 18 against 5.

You guys are clowns. all of you. Complete and total clowns. There aren't enough circus' on the planet to house all of you.

Honest to God. For a die hard...37 year Cleveland fan to read this thread is beyond hysterical. It is like I have arrived on bizzaro opposite day planet. The sheer hysterionics going on in this thread are platinum. The pure and unadulterated disdain and hatred that the City of Cleveland actually got a good player is reallly sad to me. They aren't good enough to win the title this year, obviously, are down 3-1 and still people are non-stop that the singular reason Cleveland ever wins a game is refs. They are down 3-1 and people are still non stop that there is simply no way they can win a game without referee assistance. IT is sick to me. It is beyond sick. There really are no words in the English language to describe the mentatlity on this thread. There are simply no words to describe it. It really is pathetic. OF course we are now getting the obligatory "this series is the end of LeBron in Cleveland" national articles popping up of course. So fear not. Really, don't worry so much. Cleveland coming back 3-1...please people. Even the refs can't do that. You want a team down 3-1 to win a series...PLAY against Cleveland (2007 ALCS).

Good lord, just shoot me people.

So get the fu ck out of here and stop reading then. Why the hell would you want to read 600+ posts of clown chat? Your tired and boring old "poor Cleveland could never get any breaks ever, it's impossible" routine won't be missed, that's for sure.

Like I said, I think these playoffs have been called surprisingly evenly, but if you think LeBron isn't treated like a diva, you're just a homer. The guy was freaking called for one foul per game this season. Even Kobe gets whistled more.

For the record, I think the foul on Pietrus was the right call, and the only reason I think Game 5's whistles will be one-sided is because it's the NBA's modus operandi and has been for a while. We can't have short series and we can't have superstars looking human and losing on their home courts. Just like I expect the Nuggets to get the calls in Game 6, then the Lakers to get every whistle in Game 7. The NBA wants two things: long series and big markets/names in the finals.

I hope I'm wrong about tonight and the rest of the playoffs, and I thought Game 2 of this series was remarkably fair, I've just seen this story one too many times.

.."Complete and total"..:$:

Good names for a pair of lesser animals (rabbits,cats, hamsters etc.)

You need some serious therapy my friend...or like 20 mg of xanax.

Get a grip...its just basketball and we are all just having fun. Lebron is great and cleveland isnt a crappy city. Okay... Lebron is great.

I'm not the one who needs therapy. I'm not the one who cries, cries, cries about the refs every stinking game. You guys need therapy. By the way the refs are jobbing Cleveland again this game....Turkoglu clears out the world every single drive worse than LeBron, and Van Gundy played into the refs favor Cleveland thing big time with the technical on the most recent Turk clear out the world drive. Classic stuff.

You live in idaho and you are from cleveland.

Case closed.

Ah, Skip. Thanks for playing.

1-for-10, 3 points, 4 fouls, 3 turnovers, -20 +/-, clear path foul, letting the ball be thrown off your leg out of bounds, etc. The fact that he had a -20 +/- in a game that saw a 30-point turnaround by the Magic says something. No one else on the Magic had worse than -11 and Anthony Johnson was +15. Maybe next time in the postgame you'll stop bragging about how you "burned" the Celtics and Cavs when they left you alone and instead worry about shooting worth a sh it more than once per series.

Chuck, still think the loss of Jameer Nelson doesn't hurt much? Holy crap is Alston useless. You go from an All-NBA guard to an And1 dribbler.

No major complaints about the refs tonight from me. The clear path foul was bullshit and the Cavs got a few more calls overall, but it didn't make the difference in the game.

Did he really say going from jameer nelson to rafer alston doesnt hurt much? Thats just a horribly bad opinion.

Something like that. I'm too lazy to look up the exact quote.

I'm not even trying to call out Chuck, that was secondary. I'm just mad that Skip was talking like king sh it after his one good game in Game 4. I bet he'll be real quiet about his performance tonight. With Jameer Nelson this series would've been a sweep and with an AVERAGE point guard, it would've been 4-1.

Sorry Chuck. This is from Bill Simmons, the sports guy. I would say he is my little trump card here. He is about as well known a sports columnist as you will find. Game over:)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...8&sportCat=nba

In that respect, Jordan was both the best and worst thing ever to happen to the league. You know the good things he did, but he also paved the way for a generation of one-on-one players who careen toward the basket in big moments, create some form of contact and hope officials will bail them out. With four seconds to play in Game 4 and his team trailing by 2, LeBron put his head down, dribbled as fast as he could and prayed Michael Pietrus would either bump him or trip him. If you watch the clip, he's moving so fast that it would have been humanly impossible for him to make a shot. That wasn't his goal. He wanted a call. And he got one. Their feet got tangled, LeBron lurched forward, and the refs bailed him out.



Dwyane Wade won an NBA Finals for Miami that way. Three years later, LeBron nearly saved Cleveland's season that same way. It's a reprehensibly effective strategy that has nothing in common with anything we would ever see on a playground, an intramural game or a one-on-one battle in someone's backyard. I have been writing this column for 12 years dating back to my old Web site. Never have I received as many "I hate the referees" and "I hate watching these guys drive to the basket and get bailed out" and "Why can't they just let these guys play basketball and act like human beings?" e-mails as I did this spring.

It was impressive watching LeBron attack the basket instead of settling for jumpers. Also getting his teammates involved was pretty cool too. Now if he can only do that consistently.