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Dahoss 12-30-2022 06:26 PM

I tried. More of the same deflection and ignoring valid points. Nothing I have ever said about you is false. NOTHING.

Did you not have a car repo'd? Did you not write a letter trying to take Wrona's job? Did you not cheer on PA when the track Craig was working at announced it was closing? Which one of those things is false? Please, enlighten me. I'm being respectful and leaving other stuff out but we both know balancing a checkbook isn't your strong suit either.

I mean nothing to you but you cannot ignore me and go out of your way to read my tweets. I mean nothing to you but everytime we interact you desperately try to impress me.

Maybe you're fooling yourself, but no one here.

I'm the racing fan you want to impress but I see through your bullshit. Whether you want to admit it or not, I always have. I follow the sport very closely, have a good opinion and back up my opinion at the windows daily. I've also managed to make some friends in the industry and they value my opinion as well. Sorry, but those are facts. I'm not universally hated, but I'm also real.

You know you'd rather a bunch of me's liked you than the mouth breathers you attract with your pandering.

Again, no one in the industry ever, ever defends you. Think about why that is. You know I'm right. but you're a deranged guy who is unable to see himself the way everyone else sees him.

Imagine Durkin behaving this way? You think because it is here and not on Twitter no one sees it?

Dahoss 12-30-2022 07:04 PM

I love veiled threats.

Notice how you ignored me asking what was untrue about what I’ve said about you. Why is that? Could it be that it is ALL true?

Your problem is you can’t let your work do the talking for you. You have to constantly tell people how great you think you are.

Methinks someone didn’t get enough hugs growing up. Wonder why.

This is all good and fun but I don’t take kindly to threats. I wonder what Oaklawn thinks of their announcer threatening people online. Guess we will find out.

Dahoss 12-30-2022 08:03 PM

You never explained anything. But whatever. Sue me if you want. Problem with slander is it actually has to be untrue. We both know it isn’t. Nothing I’ve ever said about you is untrue. That’s a fact.

I could point you to literally hundreds of people saying worse things than I do daily about the state of the game.

Maybe you and the big player that you talked about me with (despite not caring about me) can form a class action suit. Let me know how it goes.

You’ve painted yourself in a corner now. Have fun with that.

Dahoss 12-30-2022 08:40 PM

Somebody needs a hug

v j stauffer 12-30-2022 08:46 PM

I'm struggling with the all 2yo card tomorrow at Oaklawn.

Anyone want to give me a hand.

I'll take all the help I can get.

Dahoss 12-31-2022 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1171059)
I'm struggling with the all 2yo card tomorrow at Oaklawn.

Anyone want to give me a hand.

I'll take all the help I can get.

Speaking of struggling, I've been listening lately and you really seem to be struggling with your calls. Did something happen?

I wish you well on getting through the card with as few mistakes as possible. Lots of people send me DM's on twitter highlighting each and every mistake. I wish they wouldn't. Very time consuming for me.

Dahoss 12-31-2022 01:59 PM

Stretch call of the 4th wasn’t pretty

v j stauffer 12-31-2022 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1171062)
Speaking of struggling, I've been listening lately and you really seem to be struggling with your calls. Did something happen?

I wish you well on getting through the card with as few mistakes as possible. Lots of people send me DM's on twitter highlighting each and every mistake. I wish they wouldn't. Very time consuming for me.

I think I'm calling pretty well.

Dec 9th was opening day. 6 months off. Thought I was solid.

4 months from my 64th birthday.

Today was particularly difficult. Announcers find great comfort in names and silks they've seen before.

Today the number of horses I had to call that I had never seen their name or silks was 87!

That's not easy.

Felt pretty good about my work today.

Of course, can always get better.

Dahoss 12-31-2022 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1171068)
I think I'm calling pretty well.

Dec 9th was opening day. 6 months off. Thought I was solid.

4 months from my 64th birthday.

Today was particularly difficult. Announcers find great comfort in names and silks they've seen before.

Today the number of horses I had to call that I had never seen their name or silks was 87!

That's not easy.

Felt pretty good about my work today.

Of course, can always get better.

Please forward me those tweets and I'll give them a look.

Don’t ever change Vic.

Maybe if you spent more time on your job and less time trying to impress me you wouldn’t make so many mistakes. Think of all the time you spent pandering to morons the last few days. Couldn’t that time have been better spent on memorizing names and silks?

We all have different priorities I guess.

Dahoss 12-31-2022 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1171070)
You're a bigshot racing expert but know nothing about anything do you?

Announcers learn silks race by race or it would be a mess.

I memorized them just fine.

I'm not trying to impress you.

I just keep responding because it solidifies what an idiot you are.

It's fun!

Try learning something and try to stop being such a wanker!

Be better at your job.

People are watching and listening.

Do you learn the names race by race too? Because you sure seem to be struggling with that.

You were pretty good at one point. Those days are long gone. Now you’d rather argue with me than perfect your craft.

The game and your employer suffers because of your fragile ego and because you’re lazy.

How sad.

I wonder if Trevor Denman ever spent hours arguing online instead of memorizing names. Probably not. He respects the game too much.

v j stauffer 12-31-2022 07:52 PM

OMG
 
I saw DAHOSS talking about being blocked on Twitter and why he wasn't blocked elsewhere.

I NEVER KNEW you could block someone on this site.

Halleluiah.

Joy, Rapture, I'll never know what he has to say forever.

What an idiot I was for not knowing I could block him.

WOW. What a night. What an Elixer!

Dahoss 12-31-2022 07:58 PM

You blocked me on Twitter and still read my posts so….

Does anyone know any other announcers that argue for hours online with people?

I can’t think of any, but maybe there are.

You’d think in a profession where memorizing names is important that those precious hours before a race day you’d be doing that instead of what we’ve seen in this thread.

Oh well

Dahoss 12-31-2022 11:59 PM

Looks like Vic deleted a bunch of posts in this and other threads.

Par for the course.

He’s lucky I don’t care enough to send this stuff to Oaklawn or even worse….his wife.

Stay in your lane Vic. I own you bitch

freddymo 01-01-2023 09:21 AM

The early favorite for post of the year... "I own you bitch" lol

v j stauffer 01-02-2023 08:30 AM

Hey everybody it's Vic Stauffer here.

I'm saying hello and Happy New Year since this is the first time I've posted on DT in several days.

My wonderful stepdaughter Lillian has been in town from Hamburg Germany. She's one of the four of us that got the same Christmas tattoo which I shared on Twitter.

Anyway, Lilly is a huge fan of horse racing in general and Oaklawn in particular.

She knows as much or more about the game and everything that surrounds it than even me.

She follows the blogs and forums much closer than even I do.

Before heading this way she was studying for finals and didn't read anything for a couple weeks.

She knows all about the ongoing battles I've had over the years with DAHOSS and ANDY.

When she arrived, she got caught up. The first thing she said was dad I can't believe you're still dealing with that guy. Leave it alone he's not worth it. Exacerbated I said I know I should, but I can't back down. Even though I really wish I could. She said let me have a crack at it.

Ok, I said. Here's my login and password. Have at it. Good luck you'll need it. I trust you to not to cross the line. Welcome to the Jungle!

So, for the past 4 or 5 DH has been trading punches with a 24 year old girl from Germany!

Have Steve check the IP address. :D:eek:

She left to go back to Europe yesterday morning.

Before she left I told her to delete everything she could and to put DH on ignore. I don't want to know anything.

So for those days I was OBLIVIOUS to EVERYTHING! I had no idea what DH said and what her responses on my behalf were. She wanted to tell me a couple things, something about calling Oaklawn, that worried her a bit. It's cool I said, no worries. :)

I think they have a show on TV the kids like.

I think it's called YOU'VE BEEN PUNKED!! :tro:

HAPPY NEW YEAR to all the great racing fans.

Let's make 2023 the BEST ever.

VJS

Dahoss 01-02-2023 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1171094)
Hey everybody it's Vic Stauffer here.

I'm saying hello and Happy New Year since this is the first time I've posted on DT in several days.

My wonderful stepdaughter Lillian has been in town from Hamburg Germany. She's one of the four of us that got the same Christmas tattoo which I shared on Twitter.

Anyway, Lilly is a huge fan of horse racing in general and Oaklawn in particular.

She knows as much or more about the game and everything that surrounds it than even me.

She follows the blogs and forums much closer than even I do.

Before heading this way she was studying for finals and didn't read anything for a couple weeks.

She knows all about the ongoing battles I've had over the years with DAHOSS and ANDY.

When she arrived, she got caught up. The first thing she said was dad I can't believe you're still dealing with that guy. Leave it alone he's not worth it. Exacerbated I said I know I should, but I can't back down. Even though I really wish I could. She said let me have a crack at it.

Ok, I said. Here's my login and password. Have at it. Good luck you'll need it. I trust you to not to cross the line. Welcome to the Jungle!

So, for the past 4 or 5 DH has been trading punches with a 24 year old girl from Germany!

Have Steve check the IP address. :D:eek:

She left to go back to Europe yesterday morning.

Before she left I told her to delete everything she could and to put DH on ignore. I don't want to know anything.

So for those days I was OBLIVIOUS to EVERYTHING! I had no idea what DH said and what her responses on my behalf were. She wanted to tell me a couple things, something about calling Oaklawn, that worried her a bit. It's cool I said, no worries. :)

I think they have a show on TV the kids like.

I think it's called YOU'VE BEEN PUNKED!! :tro:

HAPPY NEW YEAR to all the great racing fans.

Let's make 2023 the BEST ever.

VJS

Just when you think you can't go any lower....you always do.

This is really sad for you Vic.

I'm quoting your post so you can't go back and delete it. If you think anyone actually believes this, you're far more demented and deranged than I give you credit for.

I mean this when I say it....get some help.

blackthroatedwind 01-02-2023 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1171095)
Just when you think you can't go any lower....you always do.

This is really sad for you Vic.

I'm quoting your post so you can't go back and delete it. If you think anyone actually believes this, you're far more demented and deranged than I give you credit for.

I mean this when I say it....get some help.

So were the posts made yesterday, since ( according to Vic, or whatever eviler twin this is ) he hasn't been here in days, also made by some relative in Lichtenstein?

Dahoss 01-02-2023 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1171098)
So were the posts made yesterday, since ( according to Vic, or whatever eviler twin this is ) he hasn't been here in days, also made by some relative in Lichtenstein?

I'm not kidding when I say a welfare check might not be a bad idea.

blackthroatedwind 01-02-2023 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1171099)
I'm not kidding when I say a welfare check might not be a bad idea.

I'm more upset that he doesn't know the meaning of exacerbated. In fact, I'm downright exasperated!

Dahoss 01-02-2023 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1171100)
I'm more upset that he doesn't know the meaning of exacerbated. In fact, I'm downright exasperated!

That wasn't him that used the word incorrectly. It was his twin brother Nic. Vic gave him his log in and password.

v j stauffer 01-02-2023 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1171100)
I'm more upset that he doesn't know the meaning of exacerbated. In fact, I'm downright exasperated!

ex·ac·er·bate
[iɡˈzasərˌbāt]
VERB
exacerbated (past tense) · exacerbated (past participle)
make (a problem, bad situation, or negative feeling) worse:
"the exorbitant cost of land in urban areas only exacerbated the problem" · "the forest fire was exacerbated by the lack of rain"

From what I can tell exasperated isn't a word.

But hey, I didn't know what pandering was and I've been doing that for decades.

BTW Throat, if you know who says anything, nice or smart or funny. Yes, I know that's a much longer price than RICH STRIKE, you know are my conduit for reporting.

He's been placed on PERMANENT INGORE and that's where he'll remain for all eternity.

What did you think of VICTORY FORMATION and or ANGEL OF EMPIRE?

Dahoss 01-02-2023 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1171102)
ex·ac·er·bate
[iɡˈzasərˌbāt]
VERB
exacerbated (past tense) · exacerbated (past participle)
make (a problem, bad situation, or negative feeling) worse:
"the exorbitant cost of land in urban areas only exacerbated the problem" · "the forest fire was exacerbated by the lack of rain"

From what I can tell exasperated isn't a word.

But hey, I didn't know what pandering was and I've been doing that for decades.

exasperated
adjective
ex·​as·​per·​at·​ed ig-ˈza-spə-ˌrā-təd
: having or showing strong feelings of irritation or annoyance
an exasperated sigh
Ricardo congratulated himself on having left his revolver behind. He was so exasperated that he didn't know what he might have done.

Dahoss 01-02-2023 10:44 AM

I'm still in shock Vic tried to pretend this whole thread was an episode of Scooby Doo.

Oaklawn must be super excited they are being represented that way.

v j stauffer 01-02-2023 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1171098)
So were the posts made yesterday, since ( according to Vic, or whatever eviler twin this is ) he hasn't been here in days, also made by some relative in Lichtenstein?

There were no posts made yesterday.

Lilly left for HAMBURG GERMANY not Rogerstein on the 31st.

Dahoss 01-02-2023 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1171105)
There were no posts made yesterday.

Lilly left for HAMBURG GERMANY not Rogerstein on the 31st.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71969

Like I said, a welfare check might not be the worst idea.

v j stauffer 01-02-2023 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1171098)
So were the posts made yesterday, since ( according to Vic, or whatever eviler twin this is ) he hasn't been here in days, also made by some relative in Lichtenstein?

I forgot about the post about the Smarty Jones.

Yes, that was me.

Or was it?? :eek::eek:

Dahoss 01-02-2023 10:56 AM

"Forgot" LOL

The problem with lying is, it is hard to keep track of the lies.

You'd think after posting the most embarrassing post in this site's history earlier that he'd just go away.

Nope.

He's doubling down.

It'd actually be pretty impressive if he wasn't you know, the voice of a racetrack.

Dahoss 01-02-2023 10:58 AM

This also begs the question....is Vic not interested in a head to head with me?

I get why he would not be, I'll wipe the floor with him. But if that wasn't him posting the last few days :rolleyes:, then that whole thing was not from him.

Interesting

Dahoss 01-02-2023 10:59 AM

What is worse....actually posting the dumb sh.it Vic posted the last few days or pretending it was his step daughter and involving her in his mess?

Hard to say

I'm fascinated by this level of mental illness.

v j stauffer 01-02-2023 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1171100)
I'm more upset that he doesn't know the meaning of exacerbated. In fact, I'm downright exasperated!

C'mon take off your angry cap for a minute and tell me what you thought of the Smarty Jones.

I respect your opinion and I'm very pumped about the start of Derby Season.

One thing I'm sure we can all agree upon is the call was SUPERB!:tro:

Here's a very VERY SCARY thought.

You and I were VERY close to being co-workers and dare I say colleagues!

After Tom left I applied for the NYRA announcers job.

I was sure I had it. At least it certainly seemed that way after excellent conversations with both Dan Silver and Marty Panza.

I "think" not positive, I was their guy.

Then I didn't get it.

I was told by a reliable source that Chris Kay had never heard of me. It was not long after Larry had done the Housewife's call and he wanted a bigger name. He got the gig. Heard that Bobby Flay had something to do with the decision as well.

But that's racetrack rumor so who knows for sure?

The part about Martin and Dan isn't rumor.

Imagine how great it would have been to work together? The #1 handicapping opinion in the country and you there to keep me sharp.

That would have been a blast.

Best part is I'm sure that we'd have become fast friends and all this vitriol would never have happened.

You'd have found out that everything JP told you about me was nonsense. You would have been able to draw your own conclusions about whether I was a good guy or not.

Who knows maybe someday?

We did start out strongly. I'll always remember how classy and gracious you were when I asked you to help me with a harness racing shift I had to do on TVG.

Where did it all go wrong? :)

Dahoss 01-02-2023 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1171111)
C'mon take off your angry cap for a minute and tell me what you thought of the Smarty Jones.

I respect your opinion and I'm very pumped about the start of Derby Season.

One thing I'm sure we can all agree upon is the call was SUPERB!:tro:

Here's a very VERY SCARY thought.

You and I were VERY close to being co-workers and dare I say colleagues!

After Tom left I applied for the NYRA announcers job.

I was sure I had it. At least it certainly seemed that way after excellent conversations with both Dan Silver and Marty Panza.

I "think" not positive, I was their guy.

Then I didn't get it.

I was told by a reliable source that Chris Kay had never heard of me. It was not long after Larry had done the Housewife's call and he wanted a bigger name. He got the gig. Heard that Bobby Flay had something to do with the decision as well.

But that's racetrack rumor so who knows for sure?

The part about Martin and Dan isn't rumor.

Imagine how great it would have been to work together? The #1 handicapping opinion in the country and you there to keep me sharp.

That would have been a blast.

Best part is I'm sure that we'd have become fast friends and all this vitriol would never have happened.

You'd have found out that everything JP told you about me was nonsense. You would have been able to draw your own conclusions about whether I was a good guy or not.

Who knows maybe someday?

We did start out strongly. I'll always remember how classy and gracious you were when I asked you to help me with a harness racing shift I had to do on TVG.

Where did it all go wrong? :)

Wow

v j stauffer 01-02-2023 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1171098)
So were the posts made yesterday, since ( according to Vic, or whatever eviler twin this is ) he hasn't been here in days, also made by some relative in Lichtenstein?

Wow, sharing about missing NYRA job was cathartic. Fun being nostalgic. Got me thinking about other things I've experienced in this crazy life god gave us.

Like when my car was re-possessed in 2000 at Gulfstream or when I sent a letter to the Sonoma County Fair requesting consideration for the announcer's position.

Wonder what will become of that?

jms62 01-02-2023 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1171094)
Hey everybody it's Vic Stauffer here.

I'm saying hello and Happy New Year since this is the first time I've posted on DT in several days.

My wonderful stepdaughter Lillian has been in town from Hamburg Germany. She's one of the four of us that got the same Christmas tattoo which I shared on Twitter.

Anyway, Lilly is a huge fan of horse racing in general and Oaklawn in particular.

She knows as much or more about the game and everything that surrounds it than even me.

She follows the blogs and forums much closer than even I do.

Before heading this way she was studying for finals and didn't read anything for a couple weeks.

She knows all about the ongoing battles I've had over the years with DAHOSS and ANDY.

When she arrived, she got caught up. The first thing she said was dad I can't believe you're still dealing with that guy. Leave it alone he's not worth it. Exacerbated I said I know I should, but I can't back down. Even though I really wish I could. She said let me have a crack at it.

Ok, I said. Here's my login and password. Have at it. Good luck you'll need it. I trust you to not to cross the line. Welcome to the Jungle!

So, for the past 4 or 5 DH has been trading punches with a 24 year old girl from Germany!

Have Steve check the IP address. :D:eek:

She left to go back to Europe yesterday morning.

Before she left I told her to delete everything she could and to put DH on ignore. I don't want to know anything.

So for those days I was OBLIVIOUS to EVERYTHING! I had no idea what DH said and what her responses on my behalf were. She wanted to tell me a couple things, something about calling Oaklawn, that worried her a bit. It's cool I said, no worries. :)

I think they have a show on TV the kids like.

I think it's called YOU'VE BEEN PUNKED!! :tro:

HAPPY NEW YEAR to all the great racing fans.

Let's make 2023 the BEST ever.

VJS

Throwing your Step Daughter under the bus. You actually think this helps you in any way?

blackthroatedwind 01-02-2023 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1171112)
Wow

I don't know if I should thank you or chastise you for quoting it and then causing me to actually see it. It's kind of painful to read. It's also completely false. An utter fabrication. Right down to some delusion of me being helpful to him about something related to harness racing. That's 100% made up.

It's pretty sad that he just can't stop. Nobody cares.

v j stauffer 01-02-2023 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1171114)
Throwing your Step Daughter under the bus. You actually think this helps you in any way?

I didn't throw her under the bus. She was a willing participant in the PUNK and her mom thought the gag FUN!

IMO she was brilliant. She knows me very well and has been looking over my shoulder for years.

I DO NOT CARE what ANYBODY else thinks or does.

This life is TOO DAMN SHORT to not have any fun.

I'm going to have FUN.

Maybe the rest of you will realize that's what these forums are supposed to be about!!

OMG

Dahoss 01-02-2023 12:46 PM

I'm speechless

v j stauffer 01-02-2023 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1171115)
I don't know if I should thank you or chastise you for quoting it and then causing me to actually see it. It's kind of painful to read. It's also completely false. An utter fabrication. Right down to some delusion of me being helpful to him about something related to harness racing. That's 100% made up.

It's pretty sad that he just can't stop. Nobody cares.

You don't remember when I called you?

I introduced myself and told you that I was doing a shift that night on TVG.

I asked if you knew anything about harness racing or somebody that did.

I had to cover the Meadowlands or Yonkers can't remember which.

You said you knew a little and sent me several cliff notes about the races that were on during my shift. They were extremely helpful.

I thanked you by name on the air more than a couple of times and again the following morning when I had an early shift.

If you truly can't remember that. It's kinda scary.

If you're lying about remembering, it's par for the course.

IT HAPPENED.

I have a buddy who has an archive for EVERY second that TVG has been on the air.

I'm going to figure out when exactly that happened.

Get the tape and post it right here on DT!

Dahoss 01-02-2023 12:51 PM

I bet no one thought they'd watch a guy throw his career away on the board today but here we are.

Vic, step away from the computer. For your sake. Save whatever shred of dignity you have left. It's not too late.

Dahoss 01-02-2023 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1171113)
Wow, sharing about missing NYRA job was cathartic. Fun being nostalgic. Got me thinking about other things I've experienced in this crazy life god gave us.

Like when my car was re-possessed in 2000 at Gulfstream or when I sent a letter to the Sonoma County Fair requesting consideration for the announcer's position.

Wonder what will become of that?

SHARP POST

Dahoss 01-02-2023 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1171118)
You don't remember when I called you?

I introduced myself and told you that I was doing a shift that night on TVG.

I asked if you knew anything about harness racing or somebody that did.

I had to cover the Meadowlands or Yonkers can't remember which.

You said you knew a little and sent me several cliff notes about the races that were on during my shift. They were extremely helpful.

I thanked you by name on the air more than a couple of times and again the following morning when I had an early shift.

If you truly can't remember that. It's kinda scary.

If you're lying about remembering, it's par for the course.

IT HAPPENED.

I have a buddy who has an archive for EVERY second that TVG has been on the air.

I'm going to figure out when exactly that happened.

Get the tape and post it right here on DT!

I believe you.

Little known fact, he used to send me his greyhound racing cliff notes years ago.

We cleaned up!


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