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Antitrust32 09-05-2012 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 888648)
Wow, Riot is really spiraling out of control!


:tro:

trifecta124 09-05-2012 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 888606)
It's not twisted at all. 4.5 million jobs were created. As we were 3.8 million down from where we should have been, due to the Bush recession and massive job loss during those eight years, yes, those jobs initially had to fill in that massive Bush loss, and now we are trying to keep building back upon it. Hardly spin. Everyone know we were in a financial collapse and massive recession, with 800,000 jobs a month loss at the end of the Bush term. That's no "secret" or "spin.

Of course they get credit for creating those jobs - especially in the face of complete governmental obstruction. Don't forget one political party chose and planned to throw the citizens of this country under the bus, in order to try and gain back power.
Even CNN said they all lied last night.....Also, what is the quality of these "jobs" that have been created.

Riot 09-05-2012 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by trifecta124 (Post 888654)
Even CNN said they all lied last night.....
No, that's not what CNN was saying last night.

Reality. Get a grip on reality.

trifecta124 09-05-2012 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 888657)
No, that's not what CNN was saying last night.

Reality. Get a grip on reality.
Yes, it is what they said.....I watch the liberal channels because I am a fact checker, it's what I do. They said that there has been a net loss of jobs during his administration....Period.

trifecta124 09-05-2012 06:05 PM
By the way, how are the economies of European ''Progressive'' countries doing lately? It seems as though that is where president Obama is taking us.

pointman 09-05-2012 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 888657)
No, that's not what CNN was saying last night.

Reality. Get a grip on reality.
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Coach Pants 09-05-2012 06:08 PM
The global collapse is planned.

I don't see where things will be any different under Romney. It's easy to find fault with both parties...yet most of you still latch onto your favorite side.

This isn't a god-damned football game. We have the ability to root for as many "teams" as we like.

But no. We like the Red Sox and Yankees. Fu.ck the other teams.

pointman 09-05-2012 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 888662)
The global collapse is planned.

I don't see where things will be any different under Romney. It's easy to find fault with both parties...yet most of you still latch onto your favorite side.

This isn't a god-damned football game. We have the ability to root for as many "teams" as we like.

But no. We like the Red Sox and Yankees. Fu.ck the other teams.
The reality is that we have two choices. They may not be the best choices, but they are only real choices. To continue to watch the train wreck that has ruled for the past 4 years is more than most of us can stomach. If the country continues at this rate we will be a third world country soon. We may be able to avoid that with Romney, we definately can't with Obama, plain and simple.

Sometimes you cap a race where it looks like no one can win. But one of them will.

Riot 09-05-2012 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by trifecta124 (Post 888658)
Yes, it is what they said.....I watch the liberal channels because I am a fact checker, it's what I do. They said that there has been a net loss of jobs during his administration....Period.
If you think CNN is a "liberal channel" you need to move out into the sunshine a little bit and check your facts :D

Ah - now you are changing what you allege CNN said. I see. Creating 4.5 million jobs and the net positive job loss - or negative job loss - are two different things.

And I don't think you want to maintain that there has been a "net job loss during this adminstration" - because that's easily not true. I believe you want to refer to "pre- and post-" recession for accuracy.

For a fact checker, you don't think actual words have actual meanings?

I'm done - you guys have fun with your crazy :tro::D LOOK OUT! OBAMA!

Antitrust32 09-05-2012 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 888662)
The global collapse is planned.

I don't see where things will be any different under Romney. It's easy to find fault with both parties...yet most of you still latch onto your favorite side.

This isn't a god-damned football game. We have the ability to root for as many "teams" as we like.

But no. We like the Red Sox and Yankees. Fu.ck the other teams.
and they're all made out of ticky-tacky
and they all look just the same

Riot 09-05-2012 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by trifecta124 (Post 888659)
By the way, how are the economies of European ''Progressive'' countries doing lately? It seems as though that is where president Obama is taking us.
What a factually bizarre statement - the economic moves of this country (stimulus) in the past three years is completely opposite of the "cut and austerity" that has wrecked Europe.

Europe is pretty much experiencing the ongoing results what Republican fiscal policies under Bush did to this country - the only difference is our elected officials get voted out, and our policies changed in 2009 before we crashed as Europe did, pulling us out of the nosedive.

trifecta124 09-05-2012 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 888665)
If you think CNN is a "liberal channel" you need to move out into the sunshine a little bit and check your facts :D

Ah - now you are changing what you allege CNN said. I see. Creating 4.5 million jobs and the net positive job loss - or negative job loss - are two different things.

And I don't think you want to maintain that there has been a "net job loss during this adminstration" - because that's easily not true. I believe you want to refer to "pre- and post-" recession for accuracy.

For a fact checker, you don't think actual words have actual meanings?

I'm done - you guys have fun with your crazy :tro::D LOOK OUT! OBAMA!
Wait...You can't be done....You have to try to spin my facts to make them seem like lies a little more.....Here is another fact for you to chew on....The actual unemployment rate in currently above 10% due to the fact that many people have just simply stopped looking for jobs. Now go and search the web for a BS reply to that one.

trifecta124 09-05-2012 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 888668)
What a factually bizarre statement - the economic moves of this country (stimulus) in the past three years is completely opposite of the "cut and austerity" that has wrecked Europe.

Europe is pretty much experiencing the ongoing results what Republican fiscal policies under Bush did to this country - the only difference is our elected officials get voted out, and our policies changed in 2009 before we crashed as Europe did.
This might be the most ridiculous thing you have posted yet.

pointman 09-05-2012 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 888668)
What a factually bizarre statement - the economic moves of this country (stimulus) in the past three years is completely opposite of the "cut and austerity" that has wrecked Europe.

Europe is pretty much experiencing the ongoing results what Republican fiscal policies under Bush did to this country - the only difference is our elected officials get voted out, and our policies changed in 2009 before we crashed as Europe did, pulling us out of the nosedive.
You lie again, you said you were done. We all knew it was a lie, your lying is never done.

And yes, this is one of your most delusional posts yet.

Antitrust32 09-05-2012 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by trifecta124 (Post 888670)
Wait...You can't be done....You have to try to spin my facts to make them seem like lies a little more.....Here is another fact for you to chew on....The actual unemployment rate in currently above 10% due to the fact that many people have just simply stopped looking for jobs. Now go and search the web for a BS reply to that one.
like I said earlier... Democrats are the best at being completely dishonest and not lying at the same time.

the 4.5 million is not a lie.... but it is completely dishonest.

think back to "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

Riot 09-05-2012 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by trifecta124 (Post 888649)
The entire economic failure that began in 2008 was caused by a housing bubble caused by policies implemented by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd in the mid 1990's and pushed through by the Clinton administration. Ezra Klein is nothing more than an elistist liberal hack similar to most other "progressive" journalists. They make up the facts as they go along. People who make 50k a year have no business buying a 750k home. That is what was going on. Bush was a failure, but his letting us down has noe led to a left wing extremist being voted into the White House. Luckily, most people have caught on to the nonsensical **** that he has been pulling rather quickly. His healthcare plan is not only an epic failure, it was also illegal. No one know what is in the ****ing thing, yourself included. Please enjoy the coverage of the DNC tonight on MSNBC. You can listen to Al Sharpton and Chris Matthews opine all night.
I watch the convention on CSpan, thanks - no commentary at all. You might try it.

trifecta124 09-05-2012 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 888679)
I watch the convention on CSpan, thanks - no commentary at all. You might try it.
It is amusing how you didn't respond to the facts that I posted here....You simply told me that I should watch on CSPAN.

Riot 09-05-2012 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by trifecta124 (Post 888670)
Wait...You can't be done....You have to try to spin my facts to make them seem like lies a little more.....Here is another fact for you to chew on....The actual unemployment rate in currently above 10% due to the fact that many people have just simply stopped looking for jobs. Now go and search the web for a BS reply to that one.
Playing the victim and getting pissed, then changing the subject, doesn't work very well when someone isn't trying to start a fight with you.

It just makes you look silly.

Everybody knows the "actual" unemployment rate is higher. It always has been, for the past 50 years. There are specific groups of unemployed that are not included in the regular number. It's no secret. It's not new. Get a clue. It means nothing. Applying that to this president and no other is stupid. Bringing that up is about as sophisticated as saying, "you know we VOTE"!

You said "CNN said they lied last night" - so, I suggest you get specific, and quote exactly what "lies" were relayed.

Or get lost with that nonsense.

Riot 09-05-2012 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by trifecta124 (Post 888683)
It is amusing how you didn't respond to the facts that I posted here....You simply told me that I should watch on CSPAN.
Please - go ahead and post some factual support for your very broad, simplist, and generalized "facts". Which are really just loose opinions.

I'll be happy to reply when you've done that :D

Again, these threads are the perfect example of what type of person populates the right wing nowadays.

Hate, anger, fear, God. It's all you've got.

my miss storm cat 09-05-2012 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 888657)
Get a grip on reality.
I laughed.

Random stuff... Big Run I won't comment on Ms. Flowers except to say doesn't she kinda look like Carol Channing these days?

Re Riot - the conventions... nice the way you talk down to us like we all can't possibly be watching.

Very Obamaesque if you ask me.

Re watching CSPAN?

How is that possible when you are always here??

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 888622)
Do you ever get tired of me making a fool of you? The question is rhetorical so don't bother answering it.

No surprise with your typical response trying to paint anyone who disagrees with you as a raciest you disgusting pig. When have I ever said anything about Muslim's and God?

I don't fall for your manipulation of facts and B.S. charts that you take from lying liberal websites and increasingly neither is the public. Several posters have pointed out your lies.

Here are facts. There are less people working in the U.S. today than when Obama took office, plain and simple. Obama's Presidency has been a monumental failure and we only have a few months left of it. I don't care how much you try to manipulate facts, the more you do, the more of a fool you make of yourself. You are a joke and everything wrong with America.

Now I have to go back to work to pay for your diety's benefits to those who don't deserve the hard work I do for it. The gig is up.
:tro:

trifecta124 09-05-2012 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 888685)
Please - go ahead and post some factual support for your very broad, simplist, and generalized "facts". Which are really just loose opinions.

I'll be happy to reply when you've done that :D

Again, these threads are the perfect example of what type of person populates the right wing nowadays.

Hate, anger, fear, God. It's all you've got.
Class warfare and race baiting is all you have. And your facts are comical nonsense supported by biased liberal outlets.

Riot 09-05-2012 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by trifecta124 (Post 888690)
Class warfare and race baiting is all you have. And your facts are comical nonsense supported by biased liberal outlets.
Sure. "Class warfare and race baiting". That's exactly what you and I have been talking about with the jobs numbers.

You said CNN made statements regarding the jobs numbers , and you refuse to even discuss it calmly and factually.

Instead of responding, you scream at me, "You're a race baiter and class warfare ARG!"

And you want to be taken seriously? By whom - Dell and that other loon, PezDispenser?

What a load of lying crap. That's one of the stupidest statements of victimized whiny ignorance I've ever read on this board. You're a fool. You're exactly the type of idiot who is destroying the formerly great Republican Party.

trifecta124 09-05-2012 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 888693)
Sure. "Class warfare and race baiting". That's exactly what you and I have been talking about with the jobs numbers.

What a load of lying crap. That's one of the stupidest statements of victimized whiny ignorance I've ever read on this board. You're a fool.
I am referring to your political party, not you specifically, McCrazy.

Riot 09-05-2012 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by trifecta124 (Post 888695)
I am referring to your political party, not you specifically, McCrazy.
My political party is the Republicans.

And now you are pretending what you said, below, wasn't addressed to me?

LOL - good luck, buddy. Keep believing. Hate, fear, God.

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Trifecta said to Riot: Class warfare and race baiting is all you have. And your facts are comical nonsense supported by biased liberal outlets.

pointman 09-05-2012 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 888699)
My political party is the Republicans.

And now you are pretending what you said, below, wasn't addressed to me?

LOL - good luck, buddy. Keep believing. Hate, fear, God.
What is not true about that? What exactly did you mean by the the hate and fear part? Where did trifecta express anything that relates to hate or fear if you were not trying to paint him as a racist?

You are delusional, Ridiot.

Riot 09-05-2012 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 888703)
What is not true about that? What exactly did you mean by the the hate and fear part? Where did trifecta express anything that relates to hate or fear if you were not trying to paint him as a racist?
.
Yes, that's right. I was clearly trying to paint Trifecta as a racist.

Especially when I asked him to post the quotes about job numbers, and he replied, "race baiting is all you have". (which, he says afterwards, wasn't really addressed to me. But to the imaginary something in the imaginary chair in his mind)

My god. Teh stupid. It burns. How do you people survive life?

bigrun 09-05-2012 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by trifecta124 (Post 888690)
Class warfare and race baiting is all you have. And your facts are comical nonsense supported by biased liberal outlets.

And your facts are supported by - lemmie guess-unbiased FAUX...am i correct or right...:D

pointman 09-05-2012 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 888705)
Yes, that's right. I was clearly trying to paint Trifecta as a racist.

Especially when I asked him to post the quotes about job numbers, and he replied, "race baiting is all you have". (which, he says afterwards, wasn't really addressed to me. But to the imaginary something in the imaginary chair in his mind)

My god. Teh stupid. It burns. How do you people survive life?
As usual, you avoid the reality. What did you mean when you said to both tri and I "Hate, fear, God." What does that mean when you throw that at us?

Seems like typical liberal spew, call the Repulblican a racist if I am in trouble!

The paranoid you calls me stupid when you know that if very far from the truth. But then again, the truth is obviously something you don't believe in with all the lies you spew here.

pointman 09-05-2012 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 888711)
And your facts are supported by - lemmie guess-unbiased FAUX...am i correct or right...:D
You are way out of your league here, this conversation is over elementary school level.

bigrun 09-05-2012 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 888716)
You are way out of your league here, this conversation is over elementary school level.
Oh excusez-moi...reading your rants, thought it was kindergarten level...:p

and quit hijacking posts D B Cooper..
:baby:

Clip-Clop 09-05-2012 07:47 PM
Great opportunity tonight and it was squandered. No coverage for the Gov of a very successful state because he is a real moderate.

Riot 09-05-2012 08:02 PM
Sister Simone just kicked Paul Ryan's ass up and down America.

You guys should be watching this. Try CSpan, so you don't get any spin, and you get 100% of it. Here's the link http://www.c-span.org/DNC/

Danzig 09-05-2012 08:15 PM
[quote=Antitrust32;888647]If Paul Ryan was not religious... or was religious and kept it to himself and really believed in seperation of church and state, I may really like the guy. He's an actual, true conservative.

Mitt Romney? eh, dont care for him.

Obama is just not made for this job.

Biden? Probably the worst of the four.

I wish a non religious Paul Ryan was running for President!


edit - what i really wish are people like Ron Paul or Gary Johnson had a real shot at winning.[/QUOTE]


:tro:

Danzig 09-05-2012 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by trifecta124 (Post 888649)
The entire economic failure that began in 2008 was caused by a housing bubble caused by policies implemented by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd in the mid 1990's and pushed through by the Clinton administration. Ezra Klein is nothing more than an elistist liberal hack similar to most other "progressive" journalists. They make up the facts as they go along. People who make 50k a year have no business buying a 750k home. That is what was going on. Bush was a failure, but his letting us down has noe led to a left wing extremist being voted into the White House. Luckily, most people have caught on to the nonsensical **** that he has been pulling rather quickly. His healthcare plan is not only an epic failure, it was also illegal. No one know what is in the ****ing thing, yourself included. Please enjoy the coverage of the DNC tonight on MSNBC. You can listen to Al Sharpton and Chris Matthews opine all night.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act

President Bill Clinton’s signing statement for the GLBA summarized the established argument for repealing Glass-Steagall Section’s 20 and 32 in stating that this change, and the GLBA’s amendments to the Bank Holding Company Act, would “enhance the stability of our financial services system” by permitting financial firms to “diversify their product offerings and thus their sources of revenue” and make financial firms “better equipped to compete in global financial markets."

yeah, that....uh...went well. :rolleyes:


altho bush deserves a share of criticism (two wars for starters) he certainly didn't sign the glass-steagall changes. that bubble that burst while he was in office was already growing thanks to the above, brought to you by-BOTH PARTIES,and signed into law by the hero of the democratic party, bill clinton.
so, altho it's fashionable to beat the 'blame bush' drums, that's far from the entire story. i know, i know...shocking. there's nothing politicians enjoy more than garnering praise when things are good, and pointing fingers at everyone else when it's bad.

pointman 09-05-2012 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 888745)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act

President Bill Clinton’s signing statement for the GLBA summarized the established argument for repealing Glass-Steagall Section’s 20 and 32 in stating that this change, and the GLBA’s amendments to the Bank Holding Company Act, would “enhance the stability of our financial services system” by permitting financial firms to “diversify their product offerings and thus their sources of revenue” and make financial firms “better equipped to compete in global financial markets."

yeah, that....uh...went well. :rolleyes:


altho bush deserves a share of criticism (two wars for starters) he certainly didn't sign the glass-steagall changes. that bubble that burst while he was in office was already growing thanks to the above, brought to you by-BOTH PARTIES,and signed into law by the hero of the democratic party, bill clinton.
so, altho it's fashionable to beat the 'blame bush' drums, that's far from the entire story. i know, i know...shocking. there's nothing politicians enjoy more than garnering praise when things are good, and pointing fingers at everyone else when it's bad.
An inconvenient truth.

Danzig 09-05-2012 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 888746)
An inconvenient truth.
yeah, it doesn't square with the blame bush, republicans all suck mantra. 'republicans block everything worthwhile'...and yet, obamacare got passed. there's fantasyland, and then there's harsh reality.

Danzig 09-05-2012 08:43 PM
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a picture of the upcoming debates between romney and obama:

Attachment 2045



so, make sure you vote for douche bag over turd sandwich.



and then there's the following, from gore vidal:


'It makes no difference who you vote for - the two parties are really one party representing four percent of the people.'


or

'By the time a man gets to be presidential material, he's been bought ten times over.'

Riot 09-05-2012 08:46 PM
Speaking now: Former Bain Capital-owned company employees.

bigrun 09-05-2012 09:03 PM
Saw this at another place...:D:D


Quote:
Monica Lewinsky’s former rabbi to deliver benediction after Bill Clinton’s convention speech

trifecta124 09-05-2012 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 888705)
Yes, that's right. I was clearly trying to paint Trifecta as a racist.

Especially when I asked him to post the quotes about job numbers, and he replied, "race baiting is all you have". (which, he says afterwards, wasn't really addressed to me. But to the imaginary something in the imaginary chair in his mind)

My god. Teh stupid. It burns. How do you people survive life?
Not only do I survive, I thrive.


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