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pointman 09-14-2012 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 889985)
You don't need my help Mr Hoss. especially when it comes to this loser.

I do appreciate all your help, however.
Listen, troll, your attempt to get Hoss to fight your battle against me because you can't handle it yourself, is disingenuous. I certainly don't speak for Hossy, but I have a hard time believing that he wants to take up your cause.

Let's reveal your real agenda here which has nothing to do with politics, but is all about your desperate attempt to gain recognition as a good handicapper. Here is the PM you sent me last night:

"nice job there pointman. what did you have one winner out of 40 ? I will give you credit, most of your hosses ran terrible. I at least had a 50-1 or 2 run second.can you say back to back, chicken shack, eddie shack. I'm back on track. any suggestions for my new signature ?





try not to have too lame a comeback please."

Here is a word of advice, do not PM me again douchebag. Fight your battles yourself instead of trying to find someone to fight them for you. You are really making a fool of yourself here. Here is my suggestion for a new signature, "I am a troll who desperately wants people to think that I am a good handicapper who needs Hoss to fight that big, bad Pointman for me."

Dahoss 09-14-2012 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 889990)
Let me set the record straight here. First of all, I have never had a problem with you and if I did I would have addressed it with you.

Second of all, I am not PD. Over drinks and a conversation regarding politics, which obviously PD and I have similar views, I showed him the nonsense and bullying tactics that Riot uses here. PD decided to sign up and join as a member here himself on his own, which I see no problem with someone doing and expressing their opinions against what he obviously thought was nonsense. I saw no obligation to reveal that I know him once he told me that it was him that signed up as PD, if I am wrong on that end, fine. Now you know that I know him, but his views are his own and he is a big boy and can defend them himself. In fact, he is smarter than I.

I see nothing that I have to weasel out of Hoss. The more people that come to the website, the better for the game, IMO, regardless of whether they feel they have more knowledge on horses or politics. If you don't like the politics that PD and/or I express, fine, debate it. But I certainly feel that this section has been wrestled from Riot's control and freed up for actual debate (which actually has occurred very nicely the last few days without Riot's typical nasty tactics), which I have expressed several times that is what my goal in fighting Riot is.

If you wanted to know whether I was using a second ID, all you had to do is ask and I would have told you exactly what I am saying now, which is that it is simply not true. pmac only says that because he knows who PD is and that it is not me. If you have a problem with me, fine, address it with me and I will be happy to respond.
Sorry...not buying it.

I don't really have any issue with you either, but think it's kind of chicken sh.it to take swipes at people from another name. That's about it.

You say it's not you...I disagree and we'll just agree to disagree. But I think it's about time I get some of my "friends" to sign up here. Really liven this place up.

pointman 09-14-2012 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 889991)
:tro:

bring all the anti-Riots on board as you like!
Thank you, Lori. I believe that PD brings an interesting knowledge and perspective to the very important issues facing this country today, I cannot remember a time in my lifetime where these issues have been more important to this country. Whether one agrees or disagrees with either I or PD, I believe the issues are worthy of debate.

Now that Riot and Big Run both have not been involved here for several days, I wonder if I should start accusing Riot of being Big Run?

Dahoss 09-14-2012 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 889985)
You don't need my help Mr Hoss. especially when it comes to this loser.

I do appreciate all your help, however.
I already regret trying to help you and would appreciate if you stayed away from me. Thanks.

pointman 09-14-2012 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 889993)
Sorry...not buying it.

I don't really have any issue with you either, but think it's kind of chicken sh.it to take swipes at people from another name. That's about it.

You say it's not you...I disagree and we'll just agree to disagree. But I think it's about time I get some of my "friends" to sign up here. Really liven this place up.
Hoss, feel free to check with Steve, Joey or Nick, I think they have ways of telling if the same person is using two ID's. I can promise you 100% that I am not PD. I am not sure what more I can do to convince you of that.

Frankly, I have always found you to be a top shelf handicapper and a very intelligent person. I have no issue with you whatsoever other than you would really think that I would be stupid enough to do that. I hope that deep down that you really know that it not the case.

Bring anyone you want, as far as I am concerned, the more people who debate the issues, the better. I think I have a pretty good track record here of being able to defend myself, I don't need anyone to do it for me like Alabama Stakes. I see no harm in showing the website to others and if they choose to join and express their views, all the better. Frankly, I think the place has been livened up since PD has posted here.

Dahoss 09-14-2012 10:31 AM
You don't really want me to check with the mods, do you?

pointman 09-14-2012 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 890001)
You don't really want me to check with the mods, do you?
Yes, I do. I have nothing to hide. PD is my younger brother Tom and a very intelligent person and I can assure you he signed up on his own and expresses his own views and can handle debating you or anyone else on the issues facing our country today.

There is no conspiracy here. The fact that he signed up here seems to be causing me unneccessary trouble, but he has a right to express his views. Pmac is my brother in law, we all enjoy horse racing even though Tom does not know as much about horse racing today as he did in the past.

All anyone had to do was ask me and I would have said that. I don't see why I had any obligation to go out and post "hey PD is my brother Tom." I am also friends with a number of people here who sometimes agree with me, but don't see that I have to say, hey, that is my buddy. If I am wrong on that, fine. But I am not posting under two different ID's.

Coach Pants 09-14-2012 10:55 AM
Meh so thepezdispenser is intelligent?

Sure. Vote Romneh things will get better!!

DERP!!

Coach Pants 09-14-2012 10:59 AM
The republic was lost due to faux intellectuals like pez dispenser who are still stuck in the false left-right paradigm.

How has the two party system worked out for us?

The way things are going you true believers better freshen up on Mormon and Muslim doctrine...just in case.

Riot 09-14-2012 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 889994)
Thank you, Lori. I believe that PD brings an interesting knowledge and perspective to the very important issues facing this country today,
I laughed hysterically :D The only thing your Sockpuppet bring to the table is regurgitating Red State and Breitbart hate conspiracy crap.

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Now that Riot and Big Run both have not been involved here for several days, I wonder if I should start accusing Riot of being Big Run?
I've been beyond busy at the sale, but thanks for missing me.

As the Romney campaign has imploded into complete failure, and the President is now virtually guaranteed re-election (thank goodness), reading the mindless, immature Anti-Obama hate screeds here from you and Sockpuppet isn't high on my list, thanks :D

We're working on kicking the Do Nothing Tea Party out of downticket races, and giving POTUS a Dem-Independent House that won't work against America, to go with the Presidency and the Senate.

See you after the sale for the debates ;)

Danzig 09-14-2012 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 889994)
Thank you, Lori. I believe that PD brings an interesting knowledge and perspective to the very important issues facing this country today, I cannot remember a time in my lifetime where these issues have been more important to this country. Whether one agrees or disagrees with either I or PD, I believe the issues are worthy of debate.

Now that Riot and Big Run both have not been involved here for several days, I wonder if I should start accusing Riot of being Big Run?
you are obviously riot. no sooner did you mention her then she showed up.


thanks a lot. :D

Danzig 09-14-2012 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 890005)
The republic was lost due to faux intellectuals like pez dispenser who are still stuck in the false left-right paradigm.

How has the two party system worked out for us?
The way things are going you true believers better freshen up on Mormon and Muslim doctrine...just in case.
not good. not good at all.

pointman 09-14-2012 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 890007)
I laughed hysterically :D The only thing your Sockpuppet bring to the table is regurgitating Red State and Breitbart hate conspiracy crap.



I've been beyond busy at the sale, but thanks for missing me.

As the Romney campaign has imploded into complete failure, and the President is now virtually guaranteed re-election (thank goodness), reading the mindless, immature Anti-Obama hate screeds here from you and Sockpuppet isn't high on my list, thanks :D

We're working on kicking the Do Nothing Tea Party out of downticket races, and giving POTUS a Dem-Independent House that won't work against America, to go with the Presidency and the Senate.

See you after the sale for the debates ;)
So the few days of quiet, debates without insults and common sense are over. Where has your sockpuppet been these last few days? At the sale too?

pointman 09-14-2012 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 890008)
you are obviously riot. no sooner did you mention her then she showed up.


thanks a lot. :D
:D

Riot 09-14-2012 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 890010)
So the few days of quiet, debates without insults and common sense are over. Where has your sockpuppet been these last few days? At the sale too?
Yes, here you go again with your Riot-stalking attacks (like your multiple comments trolling in this thread). So obvious that even those that don't post regularly down here noticed and called you out on it.

Your constant attention to me, and multiple mentions of me in my absence, show a derangement that's rather sick, don't you agree?

Good luck with your Obama Derangement Syndrome, troll.

pointman 09-14-2012 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 890012)
Yes, here you go again with your Riot-stalking attacks.
Read the threads and tell me who denigrates debate to hate. Stalking you, no. Fighting against your bullying tactics, yes.

Riot 09-14-2012 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 890013)
Read the threads and tell me who denigrates debate to hate. Stalking you, no. Fighting against your bullying tactics, yes.
Yak, yak, yak, yak ... it's like the angry buzzing of a mosquito in my ear ....

Danzig 09-14-2012 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 890013)
Read the threads and tell me who denigrates debate to hate. Stalking you, no. Fighting against your bullying tactics, yes.
yeah, uh, you know when you ignore someone...that if they are quoted, you can see that? you don't have to quote her. bad enough just seeing that she's posted, or that you can see her thread titles.

Riot 09-14-2012 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 890018)
yeah, uh, you know when you ignore someone...that if they are quoted, you can see that? you don't have to quote her. bad enough just seeing that she's posted, or that you can see her thread titles.
Yes. Let's talk about which posters are Derby Trail bullies.

Sad to watch you post here over the past few years, Danzig. You've taken to doing the same thing in the Paddock. True colors revealed, I guess.

Antitrust32 09-14-2012 12:02 PM
you're delusional to call Danzig a bully. But then again, we all know you are delusional.

sad to see you're back from the sale.

Danzig 09-14-2012 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 890021)
you're delusional to call Danzig a bully. But then again, we all know you are delusional.

sad to see you're back from the sale.
lmao

i'm a bully? hahahahahahahaha. oh my. i put someone on ignore so i can avoid reading their ridiculous posts, so that makes me a bully? well. i guess i'm a bully.


lori, give me your lunch money. now! or i will hold you upside down.... lol

Riot 09-14-2012 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 890023)
lmao

i'm a bully? hahahahahahahaha. oh my. i put someone on ignore so i can avoid reading their ridiculous posts, so that makes me a bully? well. i guess i'm a bully.
And yet you go out of your way to make repeated posts insulting that poster you "ignore".

Yeah. That makes you what you are. You choose the adjective ;) LMAO.

Riot 09-14-2012 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 890021)
you're delusional to call Danzig a bully. But then again, we all know you are delusional.

sad to see you're back from the sale.
The cognitive dissonance you display about your own behaviour is amazing.

pointman 09-14-2012 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 890021)
you're delusional to call Danzig a bully. But then again, we all know you are delusional.

sad to see you're back from the sale.
:tro:

Riot 09-14-2012 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 890029)
:tro:
^^^ Clutches his pearls, and wonders if he can create yet another Sockpuppet to attack that woman on the internet he can't stand ....

... and thinks he's normal.

Antitrust32 09-14-2012 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 890027)
The cognitive dissonance you display about your own behaviour is amazing.
I'm fully aware of who I am.

Riot 09-14-2012 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 890038)
I'm fully aware of who I am.
That's not what cognitive dissonance means or refers to.

Antitrust32 09-14-2012 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 890042)
That's not what cognitive dissonance means or refers to.
I'm with pointman.

I'm completely okay with calling you out.

Riot 09-14-2012 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 890049)
I'm with pointman.

I'm completely okay with calling you out.
Which is why I noted that the cognitive dissonance you display about your own behaviour is amazing :D

Thanks for proving my point :tro:

Antitrust32 09-14-2012 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 890051)
Which is why I noted that the cognitive dissonance you display about your own behaviour is amazing :D

Thanks for proving my point :tro:
not at all. there is zero sour grapes here. zero.

you really think you are so important.

its just fun.. to see you fall on your face, internetically speaking.

Riot 09-14-2012 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 890054)
not at all. there is zero sour grapes here. zero.

you really think you are so important.

its just fun.. to see you fall on your face, internetically speaking.
Um ... just to interject some reality for you here: I'm not the member of a group fixated upon repeatedly going after another poster on an internet list. But good luck with your self-justification for your actions :tro:

It's like watching Pointman-Sockpuppet convince himself that he's on a self-rightous mission to rid the internet of someone he doesn't like.

Nobody gives a shiat about you guys and your petty hate-fests, except ... you guys. But hey - huddle in your group and make yourselves feel better about yourselves. Safety in numbers. You guys rule the world :-)

Antitrust32 09-14-2012 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 890058)
Um ... just to interject some reality for you here: I'm not the member of a group fixated upon repeatedly going after another poster on an internet list. But good luck with your self-justification for your actions :tro:

It's like watching Pointman-Sockpuppet convince himself that he's on a self-rightous mission to rid the internet of someone he doesn't like.

Nobody gives a shiat about you guys and your petty hate-fests, except ... you guys. But hey - huddle in your group and make yourselves feel better about yourselves. Safety in numbers. You guys rule the world :-)
What group am I in?

I've been calling you out for years now. It just seems like there are others who are vocal about their opinions now.

Notice that on very few and far in between situations where i find you to be correct, like lasix, or dell being a douche, I stick up for you.

Other than our Anti-Riot chat room that myself, Rude, Point, Pain, Zig, Dell, timmi, pants, mmsc, old dog, Indian charlie, etc go on every Tuesday and Thursday from 8 to 11 pm.. and sometimes saturdays from noon - 3, there is no "group" against you.

Riot 09-14-2012 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 890065)

I've been calling you out for years now. It just seems like there are others who are vocal about their opinions now.

Notice that on very few and far in between situations where i find you to be correct, like lasix, or dell being a douche, I stick up for you.
Yes, dear - when you "call someone out" via repeated personal attack and comment, rather than discussing the subject, that is precisely what makes you a bully. As I said - good luck to you all. The rest of us will talk politics.

pointman 09-14-2012 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot (Post 890058)
Um ... just to interject some reality for you here: I'm not the member of a group fixated upon repeatedly going after another poster on an internet list. But good luck with your self-justification for your actions :tro:

It's like watching Pointman-Sockpuppet convince himself that he's on a self-rightous mission to rid the internet of someone he doesn't like.

Nobody gives a shiat about you guys and your petty hate-fests, except ... you guys. But hey - huddle in your group and make yourselves feel better about yourselves. Safety in numbers. You guys rule the world :-)
Um, no jackass. Let's get to the facts. I am and have been willing to discuss political views without personally insulting people. You, on the other hand, constantly spout out ridiculous notions which when anyone shows disagreement with you, you get nasty also have your sockpuppet go after that person (which I don't really understand why because he is really not too bright and unable to really help you).

The reality of the situation is that you became a huge bully here. The last few days involved political debate without personal insults, there was only one thing missing. That was you and your nasty personal insults. It nicely demonstrated that you are the bully troll that is the problem.

Of course, the second you come back you go right back to your bullying. You have serious issues, whatever mental ward you escaped out of, I am sure is looking to get you back.

Antitrust32 09-14-2012 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 890066)
Yes, dear - when you "call someone out" via repeated personal attack and comment, rather than discussing the subject, that is precisely what makes you a bully. As I said - good luck to you all. The rest of us will talk politics.
seems like you are describing yourself.

I know I "bully" you. LIke i said, i am fully aware of who I am.

Pointman has also expressed on here that he is aware that he is going after you.

Most others just decide to ignore you, which is just fine also.

The funny thing is.. you have zero self awareness. You think you come here to discuss politics, yet all you do it play the victim and race card.

"I'm a victim!!! I get bullied!!! if you dont like Obama you are are a delusional racist!!

There have been better discussions in the past 3 days while you've been at keeneland, compared to the past 3 years when you are an active nerdy trailer.

Riot 09-14-2012 01:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pointman (Post 890067)
Um, no jackass. Let's get to the facts. I am and have been willing to discuss political views without personally insulting people. You, on the other hand, constantly spout out ridiculous notions which when anyone shows disagreement with you, you get nasty also have your sockpuppet go after that person (which I don't really understand why because he is really not too bright and unable to really help you).

The reality of the situation is that you became a huge bully here. The last few days involved political debate without personal insults, there was only one thing missing. That was you and your nasty personal insults. It nicely demonstrated that you are the bully troll that is the problem.

Of course, the second you come back you go right back to your bullying. You have serious issues, whatever mental ward you escaped out of, I am sure is looking to get you back.
Yes. The cognitive dissonance is indeed amazing :D Hey, rude dick - I challenge you and your Sockpuppet imaginary friend to solve all your problems, the horrible suffering you endure at my hands, and put me on ignore.

Riot 09-14-2012 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 890068)
seems like you are describing yourself.

I know I "bully" you. LIke i said, i am fully aware of who I am.

Pointman has also expressed on here that he is aware that he is going after you.

Most others just decide to ignore you, which is just fine also.

The funny thing is.. you have zero self awareness. You think you come here to discuss politics, yet all you do it play the victim and race card.

"I'm a victim!!! I get bullied!!! if you dont like Obama you are are a delusional racist!!

There have been better discussions in the past 3 days while you've been at keeneland, compared to the past 3 years when you are an active nerdy trailer.
I think you and Pointman would do better talking directly to each other, and reinforcing each others unique views of reality :D

Antitrust32 09-14-2012 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 890070)
I think you and Pointman would do better talking directly to each other, and reinforcing each others unique views of reality :D
I'm going to have to wait til the next scheduled Anti-Riot chat room session.

I really wish I had your mind state. It would be great to believe my **** doesnt stink.

Antitrust32 09-14-2012 01:40 PM
anywho.

Root for Bwana Go Fast in the natalma states on saturday and for Big Band Sound in the Woodbine mile on Sunday.

Also, go Phillies, Go Eagles, Go U of A Wildcats, and i hope the gators spank the vols.

Have a good weekend people.

Riot 09-14-2012 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 890071)
I'm going to have to wait til the next scheduled Anti-Riot chat room session.

I really wish I had your mind state. It would be great to believe my **** doesnt stink.
Sorry, you're wrong. Understandable you don't get it, from where you are coming from.

What I actually don't believe is that a bunch of rude, foul-mouthed internet posters determine a thing about my worth. And that infuriates internet bullies, as repeatedly demonstrated here ;)

Look at Pointman and his Sockpuppet - so crazy vengeful even posters that don't usually post down here, have called him out about his behaviour. He creates a Sockpuppet to follow me around and attack me. How sick mentally is that?

And I'm not the one who has gone into a spitting fury that I dared post here today, and I'm not the one who has started all this crap up again. Nope - you losers own that one all by yourselves, thanks. You fools are so fixated, you post insults about me when I'm not even active on the list. Danzig says she ignores me, yet she posts rude comments about me. Pointman/Sockpuppet is literally melting down with hate.

Get yourselves some f.uck.ing mental health help.

My only problem on Derby Trail was when I stopped lurking down here after the election, and dared to say I was a Republican who voted for and support this President. The Obama-haters have gone crazy ever since. See - my political views are not "my" problem - it's your guys.


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