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phystech 01-11-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 741781)
Chuck, I'm just regretting that he got claimed - that's all.

Would you be regretting the claim if you were paying the monthly bills on him?

Princess Doreen 01-11-2011 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by phystech (Post 741800)
Would you be regretting the claim if you were paying the monthly bills on him?

I pretty much thought he was earning his keep - maybe not. It's not like we get any financial statements where we might understand things a lot better.

Cannon Shell 01-11-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 741781)
Chuck, I'm not questioning your putting him in a claiming race. I fully realize that's where he had to have been placed. I'm just regretting that he got claimed - that's all. Out of 4 horses in the partnership, we're down to one - Lloydobler. He has yet to break his maiden. The other two horses - Missus Mayflower and Run Burgandy didn't work out - they're off, hopefully, to green pastures elsewhere. So, of the 4 horses, Redboard King has done the best. That's all I'm saying. And, I truly hope the new owners/trainers are not racing an unsound horse if that's what he is.

We started with them as yearlings and they just turned 4. That is about how it goes. Look at the 4 and up maiden races at GP or FG. Filled with 300k yearlings that havent won yet. Lloyd has run some good races on a tough circuit. I'm pretty sure he could win conditioned 10 claimers. Redboard is what he is. It is a shame that Misses Mayflower couldn't stay sound enough to race because she was really fast and Run Burgandy was a longshot from the start. While we didn't set the world on fire, we won a couple and still have a horse running in NY. I don't think people understand how hard it is to try to take yearlings and develop them. We all see the stars and stakes horses but they are 5% of the lot. Dee Tee was created to give people a chance to be involved without much expense or risk, plain and simple. We as a group and individually are also responsible to protect our horses as much as we can. That means choosing to manage their issues or in the case of RB and MM, simply find better jobs for them. However ALL horses have imfirmities to some degree and IMO runnng RK as competitively as possible was a sound business decision. I dont have a crystal ball so I can't tell you that RBK is going to make 5 or 10 or 0 more starts. But like all horses that put forth any effort, he is going to have some problems down the line.

Cannon Shell 01-11-2011 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 741802)
I pretty much thought he was earning his keep - maybe not. It's not like we get any financial statements where we might understand things a lot better.

With all due respect...why? People arent making stuff up when they say how much it costs to have horses in training.

All you have to do is ask and I will explain things. That is a whole lot cheaper than producing financial documents, especially since I am the one who has to pay for the lion's share of the bills.

Princess Doreen 01-11-2011 05:27 PM

This debate is getting into very muddy waters, and it was not my intention for that to happen. I'm not questioning anyone's veracity. I just stated that I'm sorry RBK god claimed and I wish he was still in the equation. It's not redboarding - check out the first page of this topic with my wish that he not get claimed and disappointed when he was.

Done!

Duvalier 01-11-2011 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 741809)
This debate is getting into very muddy waters, and it was not my intention for that to happen. I'm not questioning anyone's veracity. I just stated that I'm sorry RBK god claimed and I wish he was still in the equation. It's not redboarding - check out the first page of this topic with my wish that he not get claimed and disappointed when he was.

Done!

Maybe you can claim him next time he runs.

keithting 01-11-2011 07:55 PM

Chuck:

You guys do a great job given the high costs involved. These partnerships provide alot of action for a relatively small buy-in.

It is appreciated!

freddymo 01-25-2011 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 745885)
Keep giving all this free advice and racing managers all over the world will be out of jobs

I could never replace Scavs he is spot on the money

Duvalier 01-25-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 745898)
I could never replace Scavs he is spot on the money

Freddy your girl claimed Redboard King.

Scav 01-25-2011 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 745901)
Freddy your girl claimed Redboard King.

OMG!

Scav 01-25-2011 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 745901)
Freddy your girl claimed Redboard King.

I'm not sure if Sandee has all the great stuff that Steph has. If anyone will know, it will be Sir Freddy

freddymo 01-25-2011 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 745906)
OMG!


I like redboard king to be movin forward..Real forward in 3 weeks. Once he is on "the program" we will see the real KING.. Go KING GO

freddymo 01-25-2011 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 745907)
I'm not sure if Sandee has all the great stuff that Steph has. If anyone will know, it will be Sir Freddy

Sandee is a terrif"fix" trainer.

Merlinsky 01-26-2011 02:46 AM

http://www.facebook.com/notes/smarty...50091981615238

This popped up on my FB feed. The Smarty Jones page updates on offspring, however they finish. RBK was last in a field of 7. Claimed by Sandee Beattie for Michael Stouffer.

freddymo 01-26-2011 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 741812)
Maybe you can claim him next time he runs.

That wouldnt be a good idea.

freddymo 01-26-2011 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 741803)
We started with them as yearlings and they just turned 4. That is about how it goes. Look at the 4 and up maiden races at GP or FG. Filled with 300k yearlings that havent won yet. Lloyd has run some good races on a tough circuit. I'm pretty sure he could win conditioned 10 claimers. Redboard is what he is. It is a shame that Misses Mayflower couldn't stay sound enough to race because she was really fast and Run Burgandy was a longshot from the start. While we didn't set the world on fire, we won a couple and still have a horse running in NY. I don't think people understand how hard it is to try to take yearlings and develop them. We all see the stars and stakes horses but they are 5% of the lot. Dee Tee was created to give people a chance to be involved without much expense or risk, plain and simple. We as a group and individually are also responsible to protect our horses as much as we can. That means choosing to manage their issues or in the case of RB and MM, simply find better jobs for them. However ALL horses have imfirmities to some degree and IMO runnng RK as competitively as possible was a sound business decision. I dont have a crystal ball so I can't tell you that RBK is going to make 5 or 10 or 0 more starts. But like all horses that put forth any effort, he is going to have some problems down the line.

Your finest post. People have no clue how lucky you have to be.

Assuming someone bought 6 yearlings all whiched had good conformation, pedigree and vetted clean if 3 made money it would be awesome. I don't care if they are 15k, 150k or 1.5mil a piece, its just impossible to do anything but try your best and pray!

We dealt with this in July and Aug, last year. How many La Penta/Zito 200kplus yearling were culled in 5k-20k mdn races at Suffolk this summer? Zito had a ton of success with Lapenta and still at least 5 or 6 were complete frogs. It is what it is.

Princess Doreen 01-26-2011 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 745975)
That wouldnt be a good idea.

Poor baby misses Chuck and Susan.

freddymo 01-26-2011 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 746006)
Poor baby misses Chuck and Susan.

I promise you RBK is in very good hands. The barn is very well kept and Sandee Beattie is a horse lover. She kisses and hugs her horses like pets. Make no mistake though it is a business and RBK is going to be given every opportunity to shine and my bet is he will run very well for his new connection. Without the fine work of Chuck and his staff he would never be the horse he is.

Cannon Shell 01-26-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 746014)
I promise you RBK is in very good hands. The barn is very well kept and Sandee Beattie is a horse lover. She kisses and hugs her horses like pets. Make no mistake though it is a business and RBK is going to be given every opportunity to shine and my bet is he will run very well for his new connection. Without the fine work of Chuck and his staff he would never be the horse he is.

OMG!!!

AeWingnut 01-26-2011 05:41 PM

WOW

just WOW

freddymo 01-26-2011 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 746201)
OMG!!!

It isnt easy to get something to run faster then it really wants to run. I realize its a ton of work and skill. I also realize that trainers get all the glory but people breaking the babies are extremely important to any horses success.

ddthetide 01-26-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 746219)
It isnt easy to get something to run faster then it really wants to run. I realize its a ton of work and skill. I also realize that trainers get all the glory but people breaking the babies are extremely important to any horses success.

what did you do with the Real freddymo?

Danzig 01-26-2011 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 741803)
We started with them as yearlings and they just turned 4. That is about how it goes. Look at the 4 and up maiden races at GP or FG. Filled with 300k yearlings that havent won yet. Lloyd has run some good races on a tough circuit. I'm pretty sure he could win conditioned 10 claimers. Redboard is what he is. It is a shame that Misses Mayflower couldn't stay sound enough to race because she was really fast and Run Burgandy was a longshot from the start. While we didn't set the world on fire, we won a couple and still have a horse running in NY. I don't think people understand how hard it is to try to take yearlings and develop them. We all see the stars and stakes horses but they are 5% of the lot. Dee Tee was created to give people a chance to be involved without much expense or risk, plain and simple. We as a group and individually are also responsible to protect our horses as much as we can. That means choosing to manage their issues or in the case of RB and MM, simply find better jobs for them. However ALL horses have imfirmities to some degree and IMO runnng RK as competitively as possible was a sound business decision. I dont have a crystal ball so I can't tell you that RBK is going to make 5 or 10 or 0 more starts. But like all horses that put forth any effort, he is going to have some problems down the line.

we're lucky any of them made it to the track, let alone the winners circle. thanks for all you do, which is more than many would attempt.

freddymo 01-27-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide (Post 746243)
what did you do with the Real freddymo?


The real me is well known. You think I dont root hard for all the decent people on this board. I know the committment Byk,Chuck and their team are bringing to people. When I post a potential race for a DT horse it isnt to poke fun its to suggest a race were the horse would shine and earn. It doesnt mean I am right it just means I am looking with only good intention.

Arletta 02-15-2011 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 745908)
I like redboard king to be movin forward..Real forward in 3 weeks. Once he is on "the program" we will see the real KING.. Go KING GO

Looks like today might be the day.. Entered at Penn in today's 6th in an Allowance 32xn1. 12-1 Morning line.

3kings 02-15-2011 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 752500)
Looks like today might be the day.. Entered at Penn in today's 6th in an Allowance 32xn1. 12-1 Morning line.

scratched

dagolfer33 04-06-2011 09:30 AM

Won Monday, paid $17.40.

richard 04-11-2011 10:03 PM

He was back in allowance company for the win.

steve 05-10-2011 06:31 PM

Redboard King won again.

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-10-2011 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by steve (Post 775821)
Redboard King won again.

Still picking up checks! :D

AeWingnut 05-10-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff (Post 775826)
Still picking up checks! :D

yeah but how big and for who

ddthetide 05-11-2011 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 775842)
yeah but how big and for who

$20,400 @ Penn Nat. for Michael Stouffer. trainer sandee beattie.

freddymo 05-11-2011 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddthetide (Post 775877)
$20,400 @ Penn Nat. for Michael Stouffer. trainer sandee beattie.

I am sure RedboardKing is enjoying being painfree

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-11-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 775931)
I am sure RedboardKing is enjoying being painfree

:rolleyes:

Antitrust32 05-13-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 741812)
Maybe you can claim him next time he runs.

:tro::tro:

Princess Doreen 05-13-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 776269)
:tro::tro:

WOW! You're really behind the times responding to a 4-month old post. :)

And, maybe I could have claimed him if I hadn't already spent a good chunk buying into the partnership.;)

jenroypa 06-04-2011 06:12 PM

Monmouth Park - June 5, 2011

Race 6 - 3:25 PM CLAIMING $35,000 – $30,000

1 1 Would If I Could (FL) 6/H L $35,000 C H Marquez, Jr. 119 Y Belsoeur 5/1
2 2 Big Dealer (NJ) 8/G L $35,000 C C Lopez 119 E T Broome 4/1
3 3 Big Push (FL) 5/H L $35,000 H G Rivera 119 K W LeBarron 8/1
4 4 Just Playin Around (FL) 6/G L $35,000 P Lopez 119 T A Hills 7/2
5 5 Redboard King (KY) 4/G L $35,000 E Flores 121 S D Beattie 10/1
6 6 Peaceful Solution (KY) 5/G L $30,000 N Mangalee 117 H L Carroll 15/1
7 7 Dream of Atlantis (FL) 4/C L $35,000 V Santiago 119 D Giglio, Jr. 6/1
8 8 Change for Gold (NJ) 6/G L $30,000 F Z Maysonett 117 M Berrios 30/1
9 9 Bear Heart (FL) 7/G L $35,000 J Bravo 119 H J Bond 6/1
10 10 Strike the Tiger (CA) 4/G L $35,000 E Trujillo 119 W A Ward 9/2


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