I said he was battle tested try reading it again.

That was the problem the first time. He tried reading it.

The two defenses were about a push.

The Ravens offensive unit was slightly better.

The Jets special teams unit was way better.

All in all ... they didn't vastly outplay anyone. They lost an even game because they were more sloppy. Edwards wasn't set - and two of the guys in their secondary were flagged over and over.

I saw a lot of "experts" talking about the Ravens having a big shot at making the Super Bowl. Their offense was vastly improved, etc. By no means am I'm blaiming the refs, because the Ravens absolutely made more plays than the Jets did tonight. But as you said it did seem like every call went their way.

Either way, I don't want to jump the gun on anyone because it's week one. But if both teams don't improve they will be watching the playoffs from home.

Yeah if I were to jump the gun I'd be going crazy over the Titans.

But I'm a realist. Field Goal Fisher won't let it happen.

Do you think V. Young is good enough if the good defensive teams are able to contain Johnson? They might be weaker against the run this year.

If he's not then Kerry Collins could do it. He's an every other year qb. This is a good year.

Phil, I'm always interested in hearing another perspective.

Whether the NFL acknowledges it publicly or not, these games have a TON OF MONEY riding on them. A good MNF matchup can get $250 million in action worldwide from estimates I've been told- 1st week of the season, hyped game, probably even more. This game had a TON of general money on the Jets- yet the line continued to drop. Additionally, the big bettors surely got their middles lined up at Ravens +3, and bought it back at game time at around PK. So what happens if the Jets drive down and kick a FG to win by 2? Basically EVERYBODY WINS and the bookies get absolutely drowned. Now, would you think this would actually be allowed to happen? Of course not! Hell, one time Vegas literally pulled the plug on a game they would have lost roughly $10 million on (Wisconsin-UNLV, look it up.) Everybody can be bought for the right price.

BTW, just for sake of estimation of scope, $82.7 million was wagered legally in Nevada on the Super Bowl; this is estimated as 1.5% of total (illegal or offshore) wagering, so in essence $1.2 billion (not including boxes, etc.); $2.57 billion was wagered legally in Nevada in 2009 on all sports, of which more than 50% is on the NFL; so my $250 million number for MNF probably isn't too far off.

The NFL is what it is because of gambling, plain and simple. They are just a well run marketing machine that hasn't had to lean on 'gambling' to attract fans.

Fantasy football is gambling, anyone that tells you it isn't, is full of crap.

Now we are mad cause we lost. This is getting ugly in here, If not the Pats its the RAvens in the Super Bowl. DONE DEAL

It's hard not to get mad when telling a knuckle-dragger they are wrong. You said Flacco has all the tools. You're a god-damned imbecile for believing that. I could lose 100 games in a row and you would still be a f.ucking moron.

No energy left. So :tro:

Yeah, except you made that up. Glad you're so excited about 'your team' losing.

Typical Jet loss. Wilson PI was nonsense but they still couldn't bother to overcome a 1-point deficit. Offense is better off playing in Play-Skool jungle gyms than NFL games. They'll handle the Gaytriots though. Brady ain't ready to face that heat. He'll be fixing his hair while getting fisted in the ass. And we already know Revis has Moss on a leash, getting him to dump on the curb.

I think people could tell it was a joke. When you let your fandom get in the way of good business sense you only hurt yourself. You'll learn.

sancho is in for a long season this year....all those weapons and the only thing he can complete a pass to is a checkdown.

having said that, bmore didn't beat them up and down the field like some might think. The PI penalties were kind of a joke, but i didn't think it would have mattered anyways the way sancho was tossing the rock.

-bt-

Ne-1.5 O/u 39

Jenkins out for the season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angele...ory?id=5571834

dude is snake bitten

-bt-

same old story matt , giants already taking the city back , sickening

Come on Marty, it's one freakin game.

Beat the Pats next week and the swagger will be back. If you lose though, it will be the sky is falling.
Even then there will still be 14 games left.
Have a little faith..............even though they looked like them (at times), I really believe that these aren't the same old Jets.

sanchez looked like a deer in headlights

last night was a key game on the schedule as i talked about in another thread, i am not writing them off , but , it didn't look good last night

the gotta be able to run the football or they won't win

I agree about Sanchez, I believe he's the key to everything. They have to take the cuffs of him and let him play. There are times they are going to need him to carry the offensive and they better find out quickly if he's capable. Last night would have been a good time to find out. I don't know if it was him or the play calling, but they have to trust the kid. He did make a few passes late that would have kept drives going (Cotchery drop and Keller running out before the marker).

I don't know about key game, but the positive is that the offensive played like absolute crap and they still had a chance to win the game on the last drive. Plus if they meet them again in the playoffs, they will have Santonio Holmes on the field (barring injury).

I also really believe that they will get the running game going. I think that you will eventually see Tomlinson as the starter, but they will be able to run the ball which should open up the passing game for them as well.

The thing that would bother me the most if I was a Jets fan, is the lack of adjustments that the coaching staff seemed to make in the game. It really didn't seem that they changed the gameplan at all, when a little tinkering might have been enough to win that game last night.

It was a tough opening night matchup for them. They basically played a clone of themselves, but with a much better passing attack. You just have to hope that your own passing game eventually matures and is able to open up and put some points on the board consistently. If they could ever get that going, they would become a real threat.

next week is the time to start , those patriot corners stink , they couldn't cover you or me

after watching last night, they will have to improve dramatically to beat the pats.

Pretty funny to me. The Jets play awful, get beat by 1 point to a team many are saying is one of the best teams in the NFL and according to some they should pack it in the rest of the year.

Yet the defending AFC champs get handled pretty easily by the Texans and there are few words said about it. The Colts gave up 257 yards rushing. They have a ton of issues. The Ravens didn't exactly look great last night. The Pats looked okay but they have their issues on defense.

The Jets are going to need to improve on offense. Everyone knew that going in. But they were playing the Ravens defense last night. Ed Reed or not, the ravens are still one of the better defensive teams in the league.

It's a long season.

I agree with all of this. There are no teams in the AFC without flaws. There are about 6-8 teams that if they avoid major injuries and more importantly get hot at the right time can make it to the Super Bowl. It's way to early to panic. The Jets & Ravens are 2 of the teams.

hmm..

Texans
Colts
Pats
SD..yeah.i know
Steelers
Titans

I hope things are different this year with the Texans. I kept waiting for them to s.hit the bed on Sunday but the running game was stout and they basically blew the Colts off the line on every play. The defense was considerably better, Kareem Jackson looked very good (Coach Pants was right) and the rest of the secondary was improved. Dallas Clark generally has a field day with the Texans but he had a relatively quiet day (11 catches, 80 yds).

It's an understatement to say this is the best Texans team in franchise history but I'm going to remain cautiously optimistic.

That would be the other 6. Maybe the Titans too. I can argue any of these 9could be the SB representitve and also give you reasons why it is possible they could miss the playoffs. The NFC probably has 5 with a legitimate shot: GB, Minn, Dal, NY,NO. Maybe ATL

Pfft, it's clearly all over already. Just listen to the POS Jet fans who get off on feeding into the media's perception of the hapless Jets. It was a sloppy game and the offense has tons of work to do. The defense is still top flight, with or without Jenkins and because of that, they'll have a chance to win every game this season.

No later than week 8 Jet fans are treated to Mark B and the arm that will not win the PPK for 15 year olds. Defense splits skulls but Sanchez is Tony Eason

You're right. He looked terrible in the playoff run. Can't play. It doesn't matter that he wasn't even allowed to throw the ball last night, that's clearly enough evidence to write him off forever.

I'm concerned about the RHT mush. The Jets definitely need him to keep hatin' on them but I have a bad feeling he could switch sides and start riding their nuts if they win two in a row.

You have a point. You can never underestimate his nut riding ability.

Not happening, Doug would never stand for that.

Objectively of course not, he hasn't exhausted all of his chances but there is something about the eyes of a QB who has stopped competing that makes them half empty type people. Big test next week for JETS but if Sanchez is looking for redemption in Miami down 0-2 he'll need the $500 shrink to make him believe he has the Willly Beaman blood flowing in him.

What are you talking about? When did Sanchez stop competing? Is it his fault Cotchery dropped a wide open pass? Is it his fault Keller gave zero effort on their last offensive play?

He threw a great pass to Keller earlier in the game that would have resulted in a 1st and goal, but Edwards was called for an illegal shift.