That would pretty much sum up the Zenyatta phenomenon.

I dunno if I like this. Blind Luck and Zenyatta in the same race would give me and many others a heart attack. For medical reasons, they really need to be kept apart. I beg their owners to think of the fans. Also the overload at the hospitals. It's just too dangerous.

I think Zenyatta would beat Blind Luck, but I'm not sure her connections would agree with me. And by 'her connections', I mean Zenyatta's connections.

JS knows he has to carefully pick his spots with her.

Still remember that joke of a track which carried the distance-challenged LH to a second place finish in the Derby back in '04.

Wouldn't let the big mare anywhere near a strip like that if it was my call...

I can't remember what happened on Oaks day 2009. How did that track play? Were there any really nice horses running on that track? My memory is really deceiving me.

And gosh, I can't remember. Did Lion Heart ever win any GI races going a route of ground on a dry track? Again, memory is failing me horribly.

And save her for...?

Yeah, getting the best of a monster like MSB on the MP speedway clearly proves that a horse is a legit router. lol


Loved when LH got exposed by that classic distance at Toga … just like RA did the other week…

A perfect record. Not that she will have that anymore if she meets BL.

You do remember that the 2004 Travers was run in a freaking monsoon, right?

but she's the best ever, so why worry?

Old article on BH.com said the heaviest stuff held off till just after the race … or well after LH folded like a cheap lawn chair on the turn…

Come on … everyone knows GZ was the best ever…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg-TQS12M3c

I was there. It was run in a driving thunderstorm. It's obvious in the video.

Yes, but since it rained at a .01 inch per hour greater rate after the race, nothing else matters.

You forget whom you are dealing with.

I've just never heard anybody say that Lion Heart couldn't a run a route of ground, but then I remembered that we're talking about Smoothie King, who's watched 18 races in his life and thinks 3-5 are pretty juicy odds.

echo...

:rolleyes:

he lost a few, and he certainly never danced or bowed.

i think everyone understands what you're doing lately regarding zenyatta. i doubt anyone can blame you.

So what are you guys trying to say … that LH would've wired the Travers on a clear day?


Lol … maybe in one of Rock's dreams

Very clever sticking the word "blame" in there

Made my prediction for the BCC many months ago in the BC forum … and I wholeheartedly stand by it…

At some point, do you even really know what you're arguing or does it all just become words?

I have always liked how he laughs at his own words with his excessive use of 'LOL'.

Good answers … figured you guys weren't quite dumb enough to defend LH's ability to take a 10f at Saratoga…

Dude, was that even your original point? Wasn't your point that Lion Heart was some sort of cheap speed even though the horse won one of the top five or so biggest ROUTING races for three years olds in the country?

Not saying that at all. Just correcting your error about the weather during the race.

Keep reviewing the material, slot

You'll figure it out … eventually…

Think you mean the error in the BH.com article…

Since you never provided the article, I figure you read it wrong.

You must be getting excited. Your annual bet is coming up. Then you'll disappear for awhile. I think we're all excited about that.

Yes, your point was that Lion Heart only finished second in the 2004 Derby because of the track, and you'd hate to see Zenyatta have to run on a similar track. When confronted with evidence that Lion Heart was, indeed, a stayer, you bring up a race run in yet another monsoon as proof that Lion Heart couldn't go a route of ground. Perhaps it wasn't the track that had him second in 2004 and instead it was talent? It doesn't seem to be implausible considering the horse won the freaking Haskell.

What's really funny is that Zenyatta is the best filly since Ruffian, and according to some people, the best horse since Ruffian.

Though, that's only if every possible condition is stacked in her favor.

Once one little variable is slightly unfavorable, they start flapping their wings and clucking like a coop full of angry hens.

The funniest part about the whole thing is Lion Heart got hurt in the Travers and was retired the day after the race.

I was just going to mention that something that probably affected Lion Heart in the race was, oh I don't know, but maybe he didn't run so well because he broke his *&#^@&! leg in the running of the race. I don't know about you Hoss, but breaking a leg in a race doesn't exactly seem conducive to winning a race...

I thought a few of you might like to read this...

http://www.thepilot.com/news/2010/se...-ride-his-lif/

Now I'll tiptoe and back away from the nice thread very slowly...

You're wrong.

No, I'm My Miss Storm Cat.

!!




My Miss Door Mat...I mean Storm Cat....





...you're wrong.



Bettah?

Happy now,are ya?

:zz: killed it for me right there.

Oh wow.

I have a habit of lapsing into a temporary coma any time I see the name Giacomo so that's my excuse for missing it. :D

You're kidding me...right?