4-5, Gfy.

Well I never saw Cousy play but I'm guessing that a he may have benefited from playing with 9 hall of famers.

Drexler is better than Scottie pippen? 1-1st team all NBA, 2-2nd team and 2-3rd team
Pippen was all NBA 1st team 3 times and 2nd team 3 times and third team once plus 1st team all defensive team 8 times

Barkley was a good player, well at one end.

James Worthy wouldn't even be in the hoF without Magic Johnson. Never made all NBA 1st or 2nd team.

I didn't know making all NBA teams was the only criteria.

How many plays did Worthy or Drexler opt out of (in a playoff game) because they didn't get the play called for them?

Pippen was a great player on great teams. We'll agree to disagree about Worthy.

So being one of the 5 or 10 best players in the league isnt important? We can agree that Pippen was obviously far superior defensively to all the players listed?

I love how the body of work of a player is suddenly not important because of one boneheaded moment.

James Worthy was a 17 point a game player that didnt rebound much, pass or play great defense. 17-5-3 for his career.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5365794

Beasley to Wolves for 2nd round pick. Though there was an interesting note that said that the teams would swap a future 1st rounder but didnt give details. More cap space for Riley to work with and an enigma eliminated. So if they have a MLE and I guess about 5 million from Beasley they can get three semi-live bodies to go along with the other 4.

Yes he was better defensively. I don't remember saying his entire body of work isn't important. I just brought up that he quit on his team when they needed him. You might not think that is important, but some might.

I love how being a 17 point a game player on a team of 3 hall of famers isn't important. Averaging 21 points in the game in the playoffs isn't important.

???

What does playing with three hall of famers have to do with averaging 17 a game? And that was in a high scoring era. Did they tell him not to rebound?

And I was never a big fan of Pippens or the Bulls. But he was a better player than James Worthy.

Mike Miller to Heat. Riley is working quickly to fill in the gaps. Let me make it 2-5 that dala says this too is a bad move.

We'll agree to disagree. If I was a coach I'd rather have Worthy on my team than Pippen.

And you were doing so well.

He DOES have an infinite amount of patience!

You are drunk if you think Pippen was better than Worthy!

Told you guys that Mohamma killed innocent people. There's 6 (planted upside down.)

It's a loser town. Lebron knows it wouldn't of ever happened there.
Don't tell me it ain't a loser town. When have they won anything? LOL...Burning n' stomping (just like Muslims.) Owner making claim after claim that he'll never be able to back up. Said the guy quit in most of the games in that Celtics series. Celtics are a good team. A lot of teams have looked bad against them. Hey, the player realizes that he can't do it by himself. Kobe couldn't either. Lakers sucked 3-5 years ago. Hey, if it wasn't a sht hole, then they'd of gotten Bosh or someone to go up there, and this would of gone better. It is sad that a city had to be humiliated on live T.V., but they are used to it. It's Fresno on a contaminated lake.Wonder how Byron Scott feels about now.

You are so nuts you are teeeeeew mothah fucl<ahs.



Killing people in LA because your precious Byron Scott has been taken from you is only making you a childish serial killer.

It all boils down to what that particular team needs. In halfcourt offense Worthy was infinitely better than Scottie Pippen. Pippen was actually pretty useless in the halfcourt offense.
He was, however, good in transition, and one of the best defensive players in the history of the sport.

Pippen is just a really hard player to judge, both because he had a fairly unique skill-set, and because he played most of his career with the greatest athlete in the history of time.

Peanut:


For your " copy/paste ready "files.

Mr. Clyde-

Was that you burning a LeFraud jersey on the televeesion this morning? They didn't play the audio but it looked like the person was saying

ROR!

ET

I'm just curious to see who the role players are for this team. I'd think they're going to run out of cap space soon, no? It's the NBA, so this is somewhere below when Walter Ray Williams Jr. will bowl his next perfect game and the NCAA swimming championships in my own personal pantheon of sports interests, but one would have to think the Heat would be up against it in the near future. Lots of D League talent coming to a starting lineup near you.

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ror!






But no....it weren't.


Am actually glad he is gone.People call me crazy,but I think the team will be better off without him... time will show this...but is amazing with all the real problems going on how locals are going out of their gourds over this thing.




Do you realize how much rye bread is?

Outrageous.

I think my comparison more stems from, even with all the ability they have (or had pre-injury in Hill's case), neither could put it to use and get an NBA Championship. Also the "hype" factor with both. Hill's wasn't nearly as big as the self-proclaimed "king," but I recall when Hill came in the league from Duke and he was being hailed as the next big thing, and here it is, what 15 years later, and never sniffed a title. I only hope the same for Lebron.

I never really cared about Lebron, or much for the NBA, I am more of a college basketball guy, but all this hoopla that was built up by him, only to basically tell the world "I can't win a title on my own, I need another superstar and 1st team All-Star to carry me to a title" is just ridiculus...

It makes me really dislike him, and I hope they fail miserably in Miami.

Bosh is a fool too, carrying on with his documentary crew, and his twitter account. Its like he is crying out for some attention. Look for him to be hawking Carlo's Cuban Sandwich Pit in Miami, those are the only endorsements he will be left getting, the scraps from Wade and the Queen.

They won't win a title because of him.

We can bump this thread until 2020.

Watch the clash that will develope between Wade and LeMoi, mostly because of LeMoi.It will fracture the team due to the guy who already has proven he will quit even in play off time if he is not allowed to coach the team.



This will happen.

Riley, Bosh, Wade and LeBron need to be the 4 pussies and perform this song before tip-off opening night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj67T29Uxjo

Oh boy.

Ryan!!



Did you sell your soul to the devil??

Bird
Barkley
Malone
Drexler
Hakeem
Ewing
David Robinson
Shaq
Reggie Miller

These guys were better then Pippen, I used 1989-1995 I think.

You'd have to include Isaiah in that list, no? Don't think there are many who would argue Pippen was a better NBA player than Thomas.

Sure, add at will.

He ain't precious, but he does smile (n' behave) a lot. He'll stay there, and try to pretend this never happened.

Wilkins, Rodman, Buck Williams

I Am actually glad he is gone.

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You wouldn't have very much moan-ay..the opposite is true.


Of course, you would know better being 2300 miles away.












SportyFans...really; is it me?

http://www.fearthesword.com/2010/7/8...cavaliers-fans

i like ownership's decision to take the crazy stalker ex-girlfriend approach.

This sort of makes my case for me.

Worthy played wing on a fast break offense with the best point guard in history. I could have scored 15 and grabbed 5 rebounds a game in that offense with magic.

Since defense is 1/2 the game and pippen was easily one of the top defensive players in the game it is hard to say a guy who scored 17 points a game makes that an even trade.

If you were choosing teams from scratch and you had to take one of these two, virtually everyone would choose Pippen. Worthy's skill set was just not that unique in the NBA. Pippen's absolutely were.

They will win a title THIS SEASSON.

LOL

Titles as a measure of a players worth is stupid. Especially in the case of Hill who may have had a ring had his ankle not broke into 50 pieces. What is ridiclous is that Kobe Bryant was saying the same exact thing a few years ago when he was pouting and demanding to be traded unless the lakers added some better pieces. I guess Chris Wallace being completely incompetent makes up for that. If you dont know who Chris Wallace is then you dont really know what is going on anyway.

One of the most amazing aspects of these signings is that while Miami gets three superstars, it has no cap space to add other pieces. It was looking as though the remainder of the roster would be filled with a half dozen guys named "Who?" For the immediate future, that would not bode well for America's Newest Team. Especially when you consider that an injury to D. Wade or Chris Bosch leaves America's Team anchored by LeBron James, a player who when last on the court with all the chips on the table on the biggest stage, looked like Tarzan/played like Jane.

Now comes word that the idiot bastard running the Timberwolves gives the Heat even more comfort and relief by taking the psychotic bust, Michael Beasley and his $5 million salary cap hit, off the Heat's books. The Heat now will make moves to add role players at will. Pat Riley must have blackmail pictures of the T-Wolves' GM under a dog in order for Minnesota to make this trade.