Idiotic? Like comparing the handling of Sumwonlovesyou to Teuflesberg?

I saw that....

While the board owned filly was placed, on form, way over her head in the KEE race....she also had never run on turf, had a right to improve on turf from a pedigree standpoint, and the reality is that there are no N2L claiming races on turf that time of year...so, if you want to run her on the turf at that point, you have to do so in a very tough spot.

After her defeat, she was wisely placed, and ran a nice race.

As far as Teuflesberg goes, there are a lot of soft Grade 3-ish stake races for 3-year-olds, that carry VERY inflated purses---he'd be a lot better served in those races....than getting his butt kicked in Triple Crown series races.

And I'm sure everyone but Fearless Leader knows this---though, he may know this as well.

This is the entirety of my posts in this thread other than the title of "shocking news". In my mind it WAS shocking news that they decided on passing the Preakness in light of the comments of Tuefelesbegs trainer which strongly suggested that they were in. As for my other comment, which is quoted above, you seem to have been able to take a whole lot more out of that sentence than anyone else has. I am always willing to stand behind what I say regardless of the popularity or political correctness of it but in this case you seem to be the one taking the shots at me, despite my having said virtually nothing.

By the way your "point" was that the majority of this thread was commentary by Steve and myself. Since your "point" is so obviously in error being that I made a one sentence comment about the validity of an $3 million dollar offer for the horse, therefore was in no way, shape, or form the "majority" or in fact any comment about the horse or its connections or its placement. If you have a problem with me personally then just say whats on your mind. But as far as this topic or thread, you are way off base.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. I'm no trainer and I don't pretend to know why Chuck spotted her where he did at Keeneland. However I have seen it happen many times that a trainer will start off with a new aquisition by moving them up into a spot where they can't be claimed away. My thinking is that they are trying to assess what they have, to be able to draw their own conclusions about the horses current class and fitness, and in this case to also check out how the filly took to the grass, and all the while gaining some needed fitness. Whatever the reason was it was validated in the very next outing when she ran her best race to date, still being spotted higher than she ever had in the past I believe. There is just no way that it even remotely compares to Tueflesberg.

You make a very good point about Tueflesberg. Instead of being an alsoran in Gr1 events, there are numerous softer good money spots restricted to 3yo's.

I suggest you RE-READ post #78. By the way, I don't have a problem with you personally, or professionally.

Explain to me how you are not calling me and Steve out with this post especially in light of your other posts. The "wizards" I am assuming to be Steve and myself.

Then you call us unethical and unprofessional.

by the way there merlin, how's the filly doing?

but not idiotic, he saved that for the rest of us!!:)

i don't imagine i'm helping here....

lmao

pillow, your timing is impeccable.

But you have yet shown where I said ANYTHING about ANYTHING! I certainly have thrown no stones at anyone and if anyone lives in a glass house around here it's me because everybody knows who I am.

allright ive sat this out enough ..jamie sanders sucks she has one good horse and she will beat that thing to death ..next..unfortunatly tuflesburg is keeping the stable afoat..

Hooves has spoken.

Just me or does J Sanders look like she's been tuned up by the entire band a few times?

guy just has an axe to grind, I really don't think it was ever really related to this thread, just a pretext to throw some jabs.

I think WE know where this Fearless "dude" is coming from...reminds me of some others.....:rolleyes:

Did you or your owners get breeders cup fever with Battle One when he had no shot.

I never trained Battle one

I thought you did a great job training that horse but if he had a throat problem you shouldn't have gone.

I'm guessing that some people need to get their eyes checked.

Battle Won's problems were many but throat was not among them

Wow! Chucks fans are coming out of the woodwork.

I have a lot of horses that I would like to place in the care of another trainer

that is the manly thing to do

:D :p :D :p

I miss him too.

I thougt the excuse was a throat infection.

He's.....

out there....



somewhere..............


............................;)

Oh, I know where Mr. CityLights is. ;)

whats your problem ....unless your jamie fn sanders you should have no beef with cannon..and in the end he didnt write the frigging piece..id guess you dont make it to your 28th post..lol

It's probably some degenerate truck driver/rodeo enthusiast.

Lung infection. We of course if you had contacted me before the race and told me that we had no shot I would have scratched on the spot.

I think this thread has pretty much gone on long enough...