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disappearingdan_akaplaya 04-16-2007 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
I still don't see where the "bashers" are at in this thread.
He is a very good horse, and it seems like everyone that has posted in this thread agrees on that.

the bashing of him has been going on for years going back to the espn board. he was bashed and bent over by racing not even being a finalist for the eclipse the year he beat mineshaft and smashed congaree with ease and lost 1 race on the dirt the entire year and that being the BCC when funny cide with julie krone up that day wiped him out on the turn. somehow congaree but managed to be a finalist but anyways he hasnt gotten the respect he deserves for a long time now

Cajungator26 04-16-2007 12:48 PM

I'd love to own Drifty. Not saying I wouldn't... just saying that he is what he is and those that think he's going to change his running style now are probably incorrect.

disappearingdan_akaplaya 04-16-2007 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Again with the who wouldn't like to own him. Of course we all would, no one said that. This whole thing started when PDrift said another 1/16 and he gets up, another 1/4 and he blows by. That's an absurd statement to anyone that follows the sport and knows that Drifty isn't exactly known for blowing by rivals in the stretch. That's it. Since then we have had to hear about his owners, what they do, what they read, how much money he's earned. None of that matters in what the discussion was about. I love how people are bothered Drifty's not getting his respect, who in this thread hasn't said he's a good horse. What more do you want? I guess being honest about things bothers some, but it shouldn't. There is nothing wrong with being honest about a horse or his place in history.


well if youre gonna be honest then actually be honest LOL, he wasnt flat down the lane. did you even watch the race?

disappearingdan_akaplaya 04-16-2007 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
No I didn't, what happened?

He certainly was no match for the winner, so call it what you want. Since you're such an expert, was I incorrect in thinking he wasn't going past the winner no matter how much further they went? Honestly....

you were incorrect in saying he was flat, again did you actually watch the race?

Danzig 04-16-2007 05:47 PM

i can't believe this thread is still on page one. ooops, there i go, bashing again. or am i attacking? or would this be construed as negative? gotta get it straight!

Danzig 04-16-2007 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya
the bashing of him has been going on for years going back to the espn board. he was bashed and bent over by racing not even being a finalist for the eclipse the year he beat mineshaft and smashed congaree with ease and lost 1 race on the dirt the entire year and that being the BCC when funny cide with julie krone up that day wiped him out on the turn. somehow congaree but managed to be a finalist but anyways he hasnt gotten the respect he deserves for a long time now

how many on turf??:D

how ya doing playa???

fact is tho, pd does have more seconds than firsts. but that was a hell of a year for him!!

Grits 04-16-2007 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya
you were incorrect in saying he was flat, again did you actually watch the race?

Yes, he was incorrect, but as we can see, he still hasn't the grace to admit even that--when the fractions and more information regarding the race results were provided.

That's unfortunate. To be that self-consumed.

Cajungator26 04-16-2007 08:03 PM

Welp...

Evidently, I'm the only one who took my advice about having a nice cold one. *Gulp*

You guys should join in!

Grits 04-16-2007 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
You want to talk to me about having grace? Very ironic I think. In my opinion he looked flat. I understand that it is awful to say about a horse, I should probably be given a suspension on here for such awful words. I now realize that commenting on Perfect Drift is unacceptable unless it is to say how good he is. Or how much money he has earned, or who is owners are, what they do for a living and what they read. Thank you Grits for showing me the light.

I was wrong. Perfect Drift was charging hard and almost surely would have won by open lengths with a better trip. He is a legend in the game and the most underappreciated horse ever. I am going to try and find a Drifty hat like Buffy and wear it PROUDLY everytime he runs. Oh and Grits you aren't crazy either, everything I have said in this thread has been wrong.

No, everything you have said in this thread has not been wrong, not at all. There was nothing wrong in noting Perfect Drift's seconds. It was how you noted them, and continued to do so.

Knowledge is a very good thing when used and delivered well. And you are very knowledgable about the sport. And in that, I am sincere, I wouldn't trouble myself to be otherwise.

When the knowledge one has is delivered in such a way as to be a put down or smart alec--to me it casts a shadow on that person and for obvious reasons their knowledge is no longer as important to me due to the need I recognized in them to disparage.

It does not concern me that you think me psycho; that you think me crazy. That's your decision.

As Byk says, this place is like a University campus with many students, even a few seasoned and aged faculty members here, as well.

brianwspencer 04-16-2007 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Welp...

Evidently, I'm the only one who took my advice about having a nice cold one. *Gulp*

You guys should join in!

Oh, at this point even beer wouldn't make the crazy go away.

brianwspencer 04-16-2007 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
You want to talk to me about having grace? Very ironic I think. In my opinion he looked flat. I understand that it is awful to say about a horse, I should probably be given a suspension on here for such awful words. I now realize that commenting on Perfect Drift is unacceptable unless it is to say how good he is. Or how much money he has earned, or who is owners are, what they do for a living and what they read. Thank you Grits for showing me the light.

I was wrong. Perfect Drift was charging hard and almost surely would have won by open lengths with a better trip. He is a legend in the game and the most underappreciated horse ever. I am going to try and find a Drifty hat like Buffy and wear it PROUDLY everytime he runs. Oh and Grits you aren't crazy either, everything I have said in this thread has been wrong.

Don't worry DaHoss. Not only does talking about Drift without superlatives make you dishonorable and without grace...it apparently also has the potential to make you one of the worst Christians on Earth,if I haven't scooped that title up yet. PMs are my favorite:

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Originally Posted by Grits
Keep reading your bible Brian. You need to, quite badly, as you make a poor follower of that which you profess.

Honestly, one of the poorest I've ever witnessed. I think you are far removed from knowing what a Christian is. You have a long, long road ahead of you.


Cajungator26 04-16-2007 09:53 PM

Guys, this is unreal... honestly.

disappearingdan_akaplaya 04-16-2007 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
how many on turf??:D

how ya doing playa???

fact is tho, pd does have more seconds than firsts. but that was a hell of a year for him!!

hmmmmmmmmm lets see off the top of my head, the makers mark@kee which i was there for that day and was just used as a public stroll and prep, and another at arlington that i recall for sure. the horse can handle the lawn tho.


im doin aight, howbout you?

brianwspencer 04-16-2007 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Guys, this is unreal... honestly.

Well, I can welcome any criticism of what I post, but an ad hominem attack on my faith is unwarranted under any circumstance -- especially from the you don't know me queen. Irony Central in the PD thread.

It's ridiculous, for sure, but I can't take all the credit for that. Credit where credit is due, I guess.

Grits 04-16-2007 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Well, I can welcome any criticism of what I post, but an ad hominem attack on my faith is unwarranted under any circumstance -- especially from the you don't know me queen. Irony Central in the PD thread.

It's ridiculous, for sure, but I can't take all the credit for that. Credit where credit is due, I guess.

Brian, I spoke to you via message, and I think it is time for the thread to end.

DaHoss has, and I have. It may be wise for you to do the same.

We would all benefit from ceasing on this one.

miraja2 04-16-2007 10:04 PM

I would like to personally apologize to everyone on this board for starting this thread. What a disaster.
I wanted to talk about Perfect Drift, because I have always like the horse a lot, but this thread has convinced me to never post about him again.

brianwspencer 04-16-2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Grits
Brian, I spoke to you via message, and I think it is time for the thread to end.

DaHoss has, and I have. It may be wise for you to do the same.

We would all benefit from ceasing on this one.

I was done with this thread this afternoon, until posting in response to a comment about beer -- which I find irresistible.

If only I had known that racing opinions would make me one of the worst Christians ever, I would have still been done.

And as such, unless you've got more drivel for me to attempt to digest, I am still done.

brianwspencer 04-16-2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
I would like to personally apologize to everyone on this board for starting this thread. What a disaster.
I wanted to talk about Perfect Drift, because I have always like the horse a lot, but this thread has convinced me to never post about him again.

Don't apologize. Not your fault. Please don't feel bad for talking about racing news.

Cajungator26 04-16-2007 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
I would like to personally apologize to everyone on this board for starting this thread. What a disaster.
I wanted to talk about Perfect Drift, because I have always like the horse a lot, but this thread has convinced me to never post about him again.

I still think an ice cold beer would have helped things on this thread... opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one. I love having horses like Perfect Drift in the game, but I think a few people took some posts made by others a bit too seriously... definitely not your fault.

Grits 04-16-2007 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
I was done with this thread this afternoon, until posting in response to a comment about beer -- which I find irresistible.

If only I had known that racing opinions would make me one of the worst Christians ever, I would have still been done.

And as such, unless you've got more drivel for me to attempt to digest, I am still done.

Wrong again.

No one discounted your opinions, what was discounted was the way in which you call names, and disect my posts to suit your own need to make a point, albeit one that is, most often attacking me.

So yes, I try and speak with you via message, and tell you exactly what I believe of your vehemence and the fact that it is--and you are--bogus in touting what you percieve as walking the path of a Christian.

And as I told you its a long, long road.

I've not used the ignore key here, its time that we both do I think.

Cajungator26 04-16-2007 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Grits
Wrong again.

No one discounted your opinions, what was discounted was the way in which you call names, and disect my posts to suit your own need to make a point, albeit one that is, most often attacking me.

So yes, I try and speak with you via message, and tell you exactly what I believe of your vehemence and the fact that it is--and you are--bogus in touting what you percieve as walking the path of a Christian.

And as I told you its a long, long road.

I've not used the ignore key here, its time that we both do I think.

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

brianwspencer 04-16-2007 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Grits
Wrong again.

No one discounted your opinions, what was discounted was the way in which you call names, and disect my posts to suit your own need to make a point, albeit one that is, most often attacking me.

So yes, I try and speak with you via message, and tell you exactly what I believe of your vehemence and the fact that it is--and you are--bogus in touting what you percieve as walking the path of a Christian.

And as I told you its a long, long road.

I've not used the ignore key here, its time that we both do I think.

Read: blah blah blah, lots of nonsense blather under the guise of rationale.

"the way you call names..." -- oh, like "one of the worst I've ever witnessed?" when speaking of my faith. Touché

Aka, the usual.

ArlJim78 04-16-2007 10:48 PM

"Well isn't that special"


Coach Pants 04-16-2007 11:09 PM

Sister Christian
Oh the time has come
And you know that you're the only one
To say O.K.
But you're motoring
You're motoring

R.I.P Grits
2007-2007

pdrift1 04-17-2007 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya
well if youre gonna be honest then actually be honest LOL, he wasnt flat down the lane. did you even watch the race?

lol thats what i asked him. he thinks he flattend out in the stretch, dahoss needs to go watch the replay again and see he was gaining ground even thou for some reason he won't admit it. take 2nd -yes flatten out- no ,gaining on the winner -yes.flatend out -what a joke. da hoss just wants to bicker i'm done with this thread-i said GOOD DAY

Danzig 04-17-2007 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I still think an ice cold beer would have helped things on this thread... opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one. I love having horses like Perfect Drift in the game, but I think a few people took some posts made by others a bit too seriously... definitely not your fault.

...and no one thinks theirs stinks!!!:eek:

Danzig 04-17-2007 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
"Well isn't that special"



one of my favorite sat night live characters ever!

The Indomitable DrugS 04-17-2007 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

Give me a stone and I will cast it.

Grits is banned? Another troll bites the dust. The tragedy of it all.

ArlJim78 04-17-2007 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
one of my favorite sat night live characters ever!

"Hit it Pearl!"

Buffymommy 04-17-2007 08:12 AM

What the heck did Grits do to get banned? What did I miss last night?

Bigsmc 04-17-2007 08:25 AM

Holy crap!

I have been avoiding this thread because I didn't care to read about a horse that ran exactly how everyone expected, but it wouldn't go away.

So, I had a few (actually it took more than a few) minutes to read it this morning and clicked on it. What a freaking train wreck.

This was better than TV. Thanks for the entertainment.

brianwspencer 04-17-2007 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Holy crap!

I have been avoiding this thread because I didn't care to read about a horse that ran exactly how everyone expected, but it wouldn't go away.

So, I had a few (actually it took more than a few) minutes to read it this morning and clicked on it. What a freaking train wreck.

This was better than TV. Thanks for the entertainment.

Of course if you're talking trainwrecks, you likely meant to say "better than TV (except American Idol, Tuesdays at 8 PM EST/7PM CST)" :D

blackthroatedwind 04-17-2007 08:42 AM

All you need to do on a horse racing message board is speak truthfully about Perfect Drift, an admirable horse who has been on the decline for some time now, and every disillusioned fan of the horse jumps down your throat. I heard it all leading up to the BC Cup.....but of course no apologies AFTER the BC....when I dared suggest he had little to no chance to hit the board. It's basically a cult of lunacy and the sane are apparently not allowed to interject any rational thought.

On the internet, whatever accountability exists, only exists for the sound of mind.

Buffymommy 04-17-2007 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
All you need to do on a horse racing message board is speak truthfully about Perfect Drift, an admirable horse who has been on the decline for some time now, and every disillusioned fan of the horse jumps down your throat. I heard it all leading up to the BC Cup.....but of course no apologies AFTER the BC....when I dared suggest he had little to no chance to hit the board. It's basically a cult of lunacy and the sane are apparently not allowed to interject any rational thought.

On the internet, whatever accountability exists, only exists for the sound of mind.


He is probably the most competitive older horse out there right now. And when I say older I mean older than four or five years old. And when I say competitive I mean the level he is at. I am not fooling myself to think he is better than Invasor, but I would root for him to beat him. Just saying I love the horse. Not saying his is the best horse to ever set foot on a racetrack.

Drifty is my fave horse who is racing. No he doesn't always win, but 9 out of 10 times he does show up and get in the money. And I did say I was wrong after the Breeder's Cup. I may have been the only one, but I did admit it. :)

blackthroatedwind 04-17-2007 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy

Drifty is my fave horse who is racing. No he doesn't always win, but 9 out of 10 times he does show up and get in the money. And I did say I was wrong after the Breeder's Cup. I may have been the only one, but I did admit it. :)


He was in the money SIX out of his last ten races.

Mortimer 04-17-2007 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
What the heck did Grits do to get banned? What did I miss last night?

What do you mean last night??


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