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somerfrost 12-11-2006 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
No I wasn't. I will say that I think i remember you saying you were in your late 20's and for such a young guy, real angry. I never found the Beatles to be socially destructive, but then again, i'm not a crazy idiot, so maybe that's why. I find unwarranted hate, and hate speech to be socially destructive, but hey, that's just me.

I'm not sure there are many musicians who have had a notable social impact...certainly Bono belongs on any list and perhaps Paul Simon.

repent 12-11-2006 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
Well I do like Willie Nelson....and a few others.

oh Willie Nelson.

my father used to have a cd called The Highway Men or something.
had Williie and Cash and a few others I think.
never cared for it, but it was better than a lot of the stuff he listened to.



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repent 12-11-2006 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
I'm not sure there are many musicians who have had a notable social impact...certainly Bono belongs on any list and perhaps Paul Simon.

isnt Paul Simon that Nickelodeon dude?
sang some song about a guy and his daughter I think.

O'Reilly likes Bono.
I personally do not. he is all about humanatarian crap.
thats fine, I just dont like the way he tries to make others who dont give a damn feel guilty about not helping some starving aids kid in Africa.



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somerfrost 12-11-2006 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by repent
isnt Paul Simon that Nickelodeon dude?
sang some song about a guy and his daughter I think.

O'Reilly likes Bono.
I personally do not. he is all about humanatarian crap.
thats fine, I just dont like the way he tries to make others who dont give a damn feel guilty about not helping some starving aids kid in Africa.



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Bono is on my "hero list"...U2 is a great band regardless of their social contributions but Bono and The Edge have done a lot...and Bono, unlike many folks, has learned to "play the game" and has raised unparalleled amounts of money!

repent 12-11-2006 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
Bono is on my "hero list"...U2 is a great band regardless of their social contributions but Bono and The Edge have done a lot...and Bono, unlike many folks, has learned to "play the game" and has raised unparalleled amounts of money!

U2 was a great band.
they did that greatest hits thing where they had one cd for the first half of their career and one for the 2nd.
amazing to see the difference.
they were doing some great stuff back with Rattle and Hum and The Joshua Tree.
the 2nd half of their career has been very ordinary.
I dont know if they got clean or what, but whatever they did is not working for them.



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repent 12-11-2006 01:23 AM

checked your hero list Somer.
Bono was not there, but it was only a list of 5.

Im not saying he is bad.
He does a lot of good for the causes he believes in.
just dont see why he tries to make the rest of us feel guilty.
some of us just dont care about others.


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somerfrost 12-11-2006 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by repent
checked your hero list Somer.
Bono was not there, but it was only a list of 5.

Im not saying he is bad.
He does a lot of good for the causes he believes in.
just dont see why he tries to make the rest of us feel guilty.
some of us just dont care about others.


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He appeals to people's conscience...those that lack one shouldn't really care one way or the other! Yeah, he's on my list but not top 5...then again, he's not done yet so he may well end up higher!

ArlJim78 12-11-2006 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by repent
checked your hero list Somer.
Bono was not there, but it was only a list of 5.

Im not saying he is bad.
He does a lot of good for the causes he believes in.
just dont see why he tries to make the rest of us feel guilty.
some of us just dont care about others.

Repent

Ahhh, you offer such wonderful seasonal sentiments. A true inspiration.

btw, nice avatar change. A hero of yours I'm guessing?

blackthroatedwind 12-11-2006 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Jim, I was told today that he is just a very blunt individual that is hardly understood. So cut him a break. The bigotry, and other happy stuff such as the one you underlined is just a misunderstanding.
Oh, and aside from the Pearl Jam quote being very ironic considering his thoughts, the avatar is the icing on the cake. The whole point of American history X was that Derek, or whatever his name was realized how wrong his way of thinking was. Repent must have missed that whole other half of the movie.

I believe the song Rearviewmirror is about escaping an abusive father.

ArlJim78 12-11-2006 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Jim, I was told today that he is just a very blunt individual that is hardly understood. So cut him a break. The bigotry, and other happy stuff such as the one you underlined is just a misunderstanding.
Oh, and aside from the Pearl Jam quote being very ironic considering his thoughts, the avatar is the icing on the cake. The whole point of American history X was that Derek, or whatever his name was realized how wrong his way of thinking was. Repent must have missed that whole other half of the movie.

Oh really? well whereever you heard that from, I'm not buying it.

I think its hard to misunderstand comments like:
"lennon was a communist.
anyone who mourns his death is a communist sympathizer or worse.

if I was NYPD commissioner, Id arrest everyone of those freaks and at least put a scare into them.
just beat them a bit or deprive them of sleep, but something to straighten them out"

GenuineRisk 12-11-2006 01:28 PM

I thought Repent put Ed Norton up because he's cute and was really cut in that movie. The other guy he had up (the sensitive-looking 1970's-esque one) was cute, too (who is that, anyway? An athlete? Actor? What? I'm so dense about celebrities, if he is a celebrity).

ArlJim78 12-11-2006 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
I thought Repent put Ed Norton up because he's cute and was really cut in that movie. The other guy he had up (the sensitive-looking 1970's-esque one) was cute, too (who is that, anyway? An athlete? Actor? What? I'm so dense about celebrities, if he is a celebrity).

Yeah, he must be a big Ed Norton fan.

I liked him in Rounders as worm

GenuineRisk 12-11-2006 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Yeah, he must be a big Ed Norton fan.

I liked him in Rounders as worm

I don't think I've seen "Rounders." I think he's a good actor but I didn't like him in "Red Dragon" because he was too young for the role.

Downthestretch55 12-11-2006 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
I don't think I've seen "Rounders." I think he's a good actor but I didn't like him in "Red Dragon" because he was too young for the role.

I'm a big fan of Norton. Not Ed...Ralph.
He and Jackie G sure gave me some laughs.
Like a few others around here.
Ralphie in the NYC sewers, Jackie drivin' the bus.
"Alice, you're going to the MOON!"

repent 12-13-2006 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I believe the song Rearviewmirror is about escaping an abusive father.

huh?

thats reading a little too much in to it I think.
Ive never heard them explain the songs origin, but it neve mentions anything about someone's father.
Alive is about a failed mother, but Rearviewmirror leaves a lot open to interpretation.


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repent 12-13-2006 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Ahhh, you offer such wonderful seasonal sentiments. A true inspiration.

btw, nice avatar change. A hero of yours I'm guessing?

Ed Norton is not a hero.
A good actor for sure, but not a hero.
I just thought the pic looked cool.


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repent 12-13-2006 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
I thought Repent put Ed Norton up because he's cute and was really cut in that movie. The other guy he had up (the sensitive-looking 1970's-esque one) was cute, too (who is that, anyway? An athlete? Actor? What? I'm so dense about celebrities, if he is a celebrity).

The first avatar was of Eric Heiden.
personal hero of mine and my parents got my middle name from him.
won 5 individual gold medals in speed skating at the 1980 Winter Olympics in Lake Placid,NY.
grew up with stories of his greatness and thats a person I have always aspired to be like, although I fell way short.



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blackthroatedwind 12-14-2006 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by repent
huh?

thats reading a little too much in to it I think.
Ive never heard them explain the songs origin, but it neve mentions anything about someone's father.
Alive is about a failed mother, but Rearviewmirror leaves a lot open to interpretation.


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It is 100% about leaving home and an abusive father. It's even obvious if you read the lyrics.

Alive is part of the mamason trilogy.....Once ( about a serial killer - the father ), Footsteps ( about the dude being on death row ) and Alive which is about the relationship between the surviving wife/mother and son.

repent 12-14-2006 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It is 100% about leaving home and an abusive father. It's even obvious if you read the lyrics.

Alive is part of the mamason trilogy.....Once ( about a serial killer - the father ), Footsteps ( about the dude being on death row ) and Alive which is about the relationship between the surviving wife/mother and son.


perhaps you are one of those want to be insider guys who hangs out on pearl jam chat rooms and talks about this crap,
but from the lyrics alone, its not specific about what relationship(if any relationship) the song's theme is compromised of.
I dont even need to look at the lyrics to know that.
never mentions the word "father" at all.


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