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Kasept 05-18-2021 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1153384)
Don’t confuse things with the truth here please.

My fault. I'm so shook by the news (via Iditarod sled delivery?) that Kenny Mayne is out at ESPN..

Alabama Stakes 05-18-2021 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1153381)
100% coincidental with the Rice ruling the culmination of years of investigation(s).

You can Listen to Alan Foreman on today's ATR (9:25-10:10) for further explanation of how these things work.



Years of investigating? So they knew something was up and let it go on for years While they investigated ? shoulda called Mannix or Cannon.

Dahoss 05-18-2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1153389)
Years of investigating? So they knew something was up and let it go on for years While they investigated ? shoulda called Mannix or Cannon.

Instead of just saying dumb sh.it over and over again why not read about the case and inform yourself?

You’re literally doing nothing all day except posting dumb sh.it. Are you allergic to facts?

richard burch 05-18-2021 09:41 PM

Thanks for the entertainment.

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
Confucius

richard burch 05-18-2021 09:52 PM

First we need a new " face of horse racing" BB needs to disappear for a while. Stop talking and lay low. I don't hate him but I don't want to see or hear about him anymore for a while. I am glad they did it and ALL cheaters have to be outed from the tracks and their past suspensions should be easily accessible to the public / bettors so they can make the final call on whether to wager on their horses.

Pages like these are good but we need more transparency.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...tag/suspension
https://www.paulickreport.com/tag/trainer-suspensions/
https://www.paulickreport.com/tag/drug-violations/

This is the kind of guy that should be the new "FOHR.

Dahoss 05-19-2021 08:30 AM

The lengths people go to just not admit they were wrong is hilarious.

Of course Rice pulled off what she did with the help of people employed by NYRA. They were fired years ago. There is no connection to the two cases.

Sure their decision was made MUCH easier when Medina Spirit didn’t win. Who cares? The decision was made.

Imagine spending all of this time an energy to criticize an organization for doing the right thing. Meanwhile crickets about Pimlico and Stronach tracks in general who still aren’t allowing Jerry Hollendorfer to run horses there. But Baffert is fine.

Dahoss 05-19-2021 09:18 AM

I’m not even sure what you’re asking.

If they banned him a month from now I still wouldn’t think it was too long. Then again, I’m not looking for things to criticize NYRA about.

If Santa Anita banned him a month from now I wouldn’t think it was too long.

RolloTomasi 05-19-2021 02:26 PM

One could argue that NYRA took action too soon. The banned a trainer for an alleged medication violation in another jurisdiction.

The split sample has yet to be analyzed. Were it to return negative for betamethasone, the case in KY will be dropped. Would NYRA be in a vulnerable position if that takes place?

On the other side of the coin, is the action they took going to be particularly effective? What are they going to do if a horse like Charlatan shows up in the entry box with a different trainer?

cakes44 05-19-2021 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1153426)
One could argue that NYRA took action too soon. The banned a trainer for an alleged medication violation in another jurisdiction.

The split sample has yet to be analyzed. Were it to return negative for betamethasone, the case in KY will be dropped. Would NYRA be in a vulnerable position if that takes place?

On the other side of the coin, is the action they took going to be particularly effective? What are they going to do if a horse like Charlatan shows up in the entry box with a different trainer?

I assume they would likely lift the ban if the split sample comes back negative.

RolloTomasi 05-19-2021 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1153427)
I assume they would likely lift the ban if the split sample comes back negative.

Of course; I was just trying to point out that they are going out on a limb to some extent.

jms62 05-19-2021 03:08 PM

Gotta say I am loving this. Supporting another jurisdictions ban. Can't run your horses with a beard. Owners can't be happy. All for what many are saying is a non performance enhancer. Is this Horse racings version of Al Capone being locked up for tax evasion?

moses 05-19-2021 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cmfhb411 (Post 1153430)
I don’t envy NYRA’s position at all.

But if you look at the timeline from 5/9 til 5/17,
even if they did this with the purest of intentions,
their failure on the PR end of it is indefensible.

I don’t know. It seems like you are splitting hairs at this point.

Dahoss 05-19-2021 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1153432)
I don’t know. It seems like you are splitting hairs at this point.

Ya think? :D

I’m not even sure what the whole argument is at this point. It wasn’t done fast enough? They failed on the PR end somehow? Would coming out with this last Friday been better? Attempting to upstage the weekend? That would have been better for PR?

Dahoss 05-19-2021 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cmfhb411 (Post 1153434)
I'm not that easy to sell a bill of goods to.

Also, I admitted my errors as timely as could possibly be done.

That's what adults do.

Unless, Dahoss you want me to put those links up here,
so you can falsely accuse me of not admitting my mistakes again.

I'm not apologizing for calling out NYRA for trying to sell
their "looking out for the bettors and the integrity of the sport"
statement as the 1st or primary reason for their action on Monday.

You can't sell that to anyone who has just eye open.

Who is trying to sell you anything? You can put up whatever links you want. Your continued posting as it relates to this speaks volumes.

Keep throwing s.hit against the wall. I’m sure something will stick eventually.

Dahoss 05-19-2021 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cmfhb411 (Post 1153440)
since I jumped on this thread, you've outdone me by about 4 posts.

But my "continued posting as it relates to this speaks volumes"?

Yeah.....said the 8000+ post guy

It speaks volumes because you’ve been wrong about pretty much everything and only when Steve corrected you did you kind of admit you were wrong.

Even now you’re still going on and on. You’re acting like NYRA kicked your dog or something.

You “called out NYRA,” LOL...how brave of you.

Go back under whatever rock you crawled out of.


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