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declansharbor 11-17-2006 12:32 AM

The guy's a mutt. He's always misquoting me too. I think he finally gave up.




Got proof on that ???

repent 11-17-2006 01:32 AM

what a bunch of crap.

now we are blaming the jocks for getting smarty jones beat?
Im sorry,
but I thought it was the job of a jock to WIN the race, and not let another horse win just b/c the little horsey ppl think its a cute story.

was Bailey supposed to do everything he could to ensure that SJones won?
this is chris bridges.

SJones ran a heck of a race.
was part of the pace and still held on for 2nd.
look,
purge goes to the rail with RHT beside him on the first turn.
SJones and Elliot elect to go 3 wide around the turn with Edd right beside him.
then SJones makes his move entering the back straight.
now, RHT and Edd can either let him get away with an easy front running lead down the backstretch or go with him.
OF COURSE they go with him. RHT makes him work.
SJones puts Edd away first before they even get to the turn.
puts RHT away on the far turn and enters the straight with an ever increasong lead over RHT.
got tired in the stretch and was run down by The Stone who was moving best at the end.
NOTHING UNUSUAL about the race or the riding tactics at all.

Im sorry your feel good story did not come to the end so many of you wanted.
personally, I wish he would have stayed down when he hit his head on that gate as a 2YO.
at least then we would not have to listen to all this b*tching about how unfair it is that the other jocks and horses did not "let" him win the Belmont Stakes and the Triple Crown.



Repent

Danzig 11-17-2006 05:13 AM

not to beat a dead horse but.....you're going to anyway.

slow time of year, but do we really need to go thru this again? i vote NO.

Winged Foot Jim 11-17-2006 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Really? I hadn't seen it. I might have to check it out.

It came out back in May as Gallop Racer 2006. They changed a few things around but IMO it's the best in the series thus far. They've also added recent horses such as Smarty, Ghostzapper, and Ashado to the legends like Secretariat, Slew, Bid, etc (albeit under fake names of course); but this year they let you rename any horse in the game so you can fix that.

philcski 11-17-2006 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
There is a new one for Playstation 2. DQs and more races. Don't have it but I hear it's great.

the one with ghostzapper on the cover? mildly entertaining, available on the discount rack at your local best buy for $9.99.

im not much of a video gamer but i am addicted to Guitar Hero. anybody ever play it?

oh wait, is this a smarty thread?

blackthroatedwind 11-17-2006 08:28 AM

Guitar Hero???????

philcski 11-17-2006 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Guitar Hero???????

www.guitarherogame.com

air guitar karaoke meets Dance Dance Revolution with a dash of Spinal Tap. a total riot.

blackthroatedwind 11-17-2006 08:39 AM

Does it come with microdot or do you have to buy that yourself?

philcski 11-17-2006 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Does it come with microdot or do you have to buy that yourself?

whats a microdot?

eurobounce 11-17-2006 08:50 AM

Isnt that what people from India have on their foreheads?

Buffymommy 11-17-2006 08:54 AM

Are you guys this upset that Real Quiet only lost by a tiny nose... or that Silver Charm didn't get it ya know they did take the horse wide so SC wouldn't see him and fight back... Or what about War Emblem, did they make him trip on purpose...


Just saying that it is horse racing. Things happen to make a horse win or lose. Racing Luck.

dr. fager 11-17-2006 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
Are you guys this upset that Real Quiet only lost by a tiny nose... or that Silver Charm didn't get it ya know they did take the horse wide so SC wouldn't see him and fight back... Or what about War Emblem, did they make him trip on purpose...


Just saying that it is horse racing. Things happen to make a horse win or lose. Racing Luck.

So the 11 won it were lucky and that's that?

Look, rabbits have been used throughtout the game. For instance, Damascus had Hedevar to wear out Dr. Fager in the '67 Woodward. The thing about it is they were both trained (I believe,not owned) by the same person and Hedevar was there only to benefit Damascus. In the case of Bailey and Solis, the perception (right or wrong) is they took on the front end for one reason only...to wear down SJ and take him out of his race. And who did it benefit? What about any bettors that had RHT or Eddington in their exotics?

Serious questions on taking horses out of their running styles and why, if there is proof out there that is what they were instructed to do by the owner/trainer...that's one thing...if not that's why the ?? are always going to be ask.

Revolution 11-17-2006 09:30 AM

Great horses find ways to win. Very good ones do not. Smarty, like Ghostzapper and Candy Ride was very good, not great.

hoovesupsideyourhead 11-17-2006 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Does it come with microdot or do you have to buy that yourself?

NOW THATS FUNNY.....

slotdirt 11-17-2006 09:56 AM

Karaoke revolution...

Buffymommy 11-17-2006 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dr. fager
So the 11 won it were lucky and that's that?

Look, rabbits have been used throughtout the game. For instance, Damascus had Hedevar to wear out Dr. Fager in the '67 Woodward. The thing about it is they were both trained (I believe,not owned) by the same person and Hedevar was there only to benefit Damascus. In the case of Bailey and Solis, the perception (right or wrong) is they took on the front end for one reason only...to wear down SJ and take him out of his race. And who did it benefit? What about any bettors that had RHT or Eddington in their exotics?

Serious questions on taking horses out of their running styles and why, if there is proof out there that is what they were instructed to do by the owner/trainer...that's one thing...if not that's why the ?? are always going to be ask.


Why do you think it has taken this long for another horse to win it? I was just stating that everyone is mad about the Solis and Bailey rides and wants to punish them. Was everyone all up in arms about the 1988 Preakness when they did the same thing to Winning Colors? It is a part of racing. EVERYONE wants it to be their horse to win the triple crown.

Should Gary Stevens have held Victory Gallop up to let Real Quiet win? Now I am not saying I agree with what Solis and Bailey did, but just stating that why should we be talking about it still? Smarty was a very good horse. He just didn't win the triple crown.

dr. fager 11-17-2006 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
Why do you think it has taken this long for another horse to win it? I was just stating that everyone is mad about the Solis and Bailey rides and wants to punish them. Was everyone all up in arms about the 1988 Preakness when they did the same thing to Winning Colors? It is a part of racing. EVERYONE wants it to be their horse to win the triple crown.

Should Gary Stevens have held Victory Gallop up to let Real Quiet win? Now I am not saying I agree with what Solis and Bailey did, but just stating that why should we be talking about it still? Smarty was a very good horse. He just didn't win the triple crown.

My points weren't if SJ was great horse or not, I have not interest in arguing that.....it's more of the problems with that race and why it's talked about the way it is. For instance, your SC explanation about them going wide...that a good ride to try and WIN....see my point?

I'm purely devastated that Affirmed, Slew, Secretariat, et. al. weren't great just lucky....LOL, The Bid had REALLY bad luck, that darn safety pin.

Buffymommy 11-17-2006 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dr. fager
My points weren't if SJ was great horse or not, I have not interest in arguing that.....it's more of the problems with that race and why it's talked about the way it is. For instance, your SC explanation about them going wide...that a good ride to try and WIN....see my point?

I'm purely devastated that Affirmed, Slew, Secretariat, et. al. weren't great just lucky....LOL, The Bid had REALLY bad luck, that darn safety pin.


Affirmed, Slew, Secretariat, etc... were of a different era of horses. They were great ones yes. I meant the horses of today were going to need luck to prove their greatness in the triple crown.

People are devious and want their horse to win, not someone elses. That is what it boils down to Dr. Fager. Not nice, but that seems to be the way it is.

blackthroatedwind 11-17-2006 10:07 AM

This thread is better than microdot.

And one thing's for sure.....it's a flashback.

philcski 11-17-2006 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
This thread is better than microdot.

And one thing's for sure.....it's a flashback.

HAHAHA! i get it now...

that would be optional, for improved gameplay. although since the "notes" you play along with are color-coded, it may inhibit your ability to become a "true guitar hero..."


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