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Originally Posted by ScottJ (Post 994799)

I just watched the replay panshot (head-on not available).

Castellano was clearly tipping outside of Bayerd with Today's Agenda and then pulled the left rein to come back inside and try to pin Irad Ortiz and Ludicrous down to the rail behind the front speed.

It appears to me that Castellano was trying to either beat Ludicrous or specifically get the nod over rival Ortiz - but he clearly did not ride the race in order to defeat the front runner or he would have come wide.

It also appears that there was bumping in the stretch and the breakdown occurred after some contact - and given the right front injury, this could have been a fatal blow delivered by Castellano's mount.

Now, I am not a steward clearly. I know that Castellano gets away with many dangerous actions on the track in the name of being competitive.

This deserves days in my view. The rider's actions put several in danger on the track and that must be handled by the stewards.

These are 2 yo horses, why try to split them instead of around ?:wf

Nice of Jose to set the table for his brother.

I guess I needed a reminder of why Lukas/Lanerie are auto tosses. :wf

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottJ (Post 994799)

I just watched the replay panshot (head-on not available).

Castellano was clearly tipping outside of Bayerd with Today's Agenda and then pulled the left rein to come back inside and try to pin Irad Ortiz and Ludicrous down to the rail behind the front speed.

It appears to me that Castellano was trying to either beat Ludicrous or specifically get the nod over rival Ortiz - but he clearly did not ride the race in order to defeat the front runner or he would have come wide.

It also appears that there was bumping in the stretch and the breakdown occurred after some contact - and given the right front injury, this could have been a fatal blow delivered by Castellano's mount.

Now, I am not a steward clearly. I know that Castellano gets away with many dangerous actions on the track in the name of being competitive.

This deserves days in my view. The rider's actions put several in danger on the track and that must be handled by the stewards.

He deserves days and should kiss the stars that the owner of that horse can't sue him for the value of the horse.

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 994807)

I guess I needed a reminder of why Lukas/Lanerie are auto tosses. :wf

Ditto.

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 994794)

Nice Knicks and Point...

Thanks

Toga 6

$20 win 4
$20 dd
4,8/10

Race #6 08/23/2014
Saratoga
$50.00 Win/Place
# 12
$100.00

you will never see jj get days at toga imo

Spa 6th
10 ex box 2 12
10 wp 2
10 wp 12

Spa 6

$20W 4
$10DD 4,12/2,6

Race #6 08/23/2014
Saratoga
$5.00 Pick-3
# 12
WT # 2,3,10
WT # 2,4
$30.00

Saratoga 7

$20 DBL 12/1,4

August 23 11:09 AM Saratoga Thoroughbred 6 2.00 DB (PWHL) 2, 3 / 1, 2, 10 $12.00
August 23 11:08 AM Saratoga Thoroughbred 6 2.00 EX (BOX ) 2, 3, 8, 10 $24.00

aratoga Race Course 6 $1.00 P3 8 / 2,3,10 / 2,4 $6.00
Saratoga Race Course 6 $1.00 P3 2,4,8 / 2,3,10 / 2,4 $18.00

Monmouth 4

$25 DD 5 / 5,8
$10 DD 2 / 5

Toga 7

$5 P3 1,2,3,4,6 / 2,4,7 / 7

GL all!

SC at drf says, R8 now on inner turf,and R9 now on Mellon turf.

Pretty much all sucker horses winning so far at Saratoga today. McIlroy at 2-1 was the icing on the cake.

Spa 7th
10 ex box 4/10
10 dd 4/10 2

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 994833)

Pretty much all sucker horses winning so far at Saratoga today. McIlroy at 2-1 was the icing on the cake.

I could not agree more about McIlory, I would never have taken 2-1 on that horse, to me the majority of scenarios were against. But it seems that these types have beaten me a lot this meet.

Keep this in the back of your mind ... and see how many more times J C goes after I O.

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Originally Posted by LAP_520 (Post 994836)

Keep this in the back of your mind ... and see how many more times J C goes after I O.

Interesting perspective that makes one think. However if the stewards do the right thing, Javier will lose enough days to put Irad over the top. Javier needs some time on the bench after that.