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JimmyEllis 09-28-2013 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 947058)
I honestly don't know what to do at this point. My frustration has reached a new level while my account goes into the $hitter.

Why do people think Lezcano is a great rider?

I've been wondering the same thing for years. I just don't get it.

Meantime, Boulanger runs out of ground, costing me a $92 exacta. Bad ride, after watching the replay. If he just stays outside, he's easily 2nd.

herkhorse 09-28-2013 02:54 PM

Fuc it I'll try SA

pick 5

4-9-12/6-7-9/6-7/4-8-11/1-6-8

casp0555 09-28-2013 02:57 PM

Bel 7
Pk 4 .50
3,5,8
1,3
2,4
2,6,7,8
$24

pointman 09-28-2013 03:06 PM

Bel 7

$1-$120
7- 2,3,4,5,8
8- 1,3,5
9- 1,2,3,4
10- 6,8

$20W 3
$20DD 3,8/1

herkhorse 09-28-2013 03:07 PM

:wf

Race #7 09/28/2013
Belmont
$0.5 Pick-4
# 1,5,8
WT # 1,2,3,4
WT # 2,3
WT # 2,3,6,8
$48.00

jms62 09-28-2013 03:09 PM

Bel 7

$10 ex box 2,7

P4 2,4,7,8/1,3/1,2/1,3,6,8
p4 2,,5,7/1,2,3,6/All/8
p4

JimmyEllis 09-28-2013 03:14 PM

Woodbine race 8

$40 ex 1/2,3,5

$6 tri 1,3/1,2,3,5/1,2,3,5

jms62 09-28-2013 03:16 PM

Story of my ****ing meet:zz::zz: how does he lose that race.

pointman 09-28-2013 03:19 PM

This should be easy, no way the 8 comes down, Justin Phillip got beat fair and square.

jms62 09-28-2013 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 947077)
This should be easy, no way the 8 comes down, Justin Phillip got beat fair and square.

Yup Johhn V should concentrate on finishing the race he cost him the race.

JimmyEllis 09-28-2013 03:21 PM

He got herded just before the wire, Point. That's what got him beat. But they were both mixing it up and I could see where they keep the 8 up

pointman 09-28-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyEllis (Post 947080)
He got herded just before the wire, Point. That's what got him beat. But they were both mixing it up and I could see where they keep the 8 up

I didn't think the slight bump made much of a difference and agree that they were mixing it up, agree the call is right.

jms62 09-28-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 947082)
I didn't think the slight bump made much of a difference and agree that they were mixing it up, agree the call is right.

He would have had a case if he didnt bump first.

JimmyEllis 09-28-2013 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 947082)
I didn't think the slight bump made much of a difference and agree that they were mixing it up, agree the call is right.

We disagree. I think that horses just don't want to pass when they get bumped or carried out. They just can't stride out as fully as they would otherwise. But this bad news for JV. A couple of years ago he was the best finisher in NY and one of the best around. Now, he's behind Rosario and Castellano.

JimmyEllis 09-28-2013 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyEllis (Post 947074)
Woodbine race 8

$40 ex 1/2,3,5

$6 tri 1,3/1,2,3,5/1,2,3,5

$126

I'm laughing at myself

pointman 09-28-2013 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyEllis (Post 947086)
We disagree. I think that horses just don't want to pass when they get bumped or carried out. They just can't stride out as fully as they would otherwise.

I agree with you 100%. As you know I am the first person to go nuts on herding even when the drift out just intimidates a horse from passing (which I believe is an unfair tactic that is often used and never penalized).

I just thought in this situation the 2 came in first and that the 8 didn't really come back in and hit the 2 that much to have an effect on the result particularly since it was so close to the line.

Having said that, I have a great deal of respect for your opinions, particularly on herding, and share the opinion that it does shorten strides and often unfairly does not get called. We just disagree with the effect it had in this instance.

JimmyEllis 09-28-2013 03:40 PM

I respect your opinion, as well.

Belmont Race 8

$10 Pick 3 : 2/2,5/7,8

$40 dd 1,2 / 2,5

pointman 09-28-2013 03:41 PM

Bel 8

$20DD 1/1,3

pointman 09-28-2013 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyEllis (Post 947089)
I respect your opinion, as well.

I appreciate that, Jimmy.

I am going to go out on a limb and say that based upon the JCGC thread in the Paddock that 10 point does not share the same opinion. :D

jms62 09-28-2013 03:48 PM

bel 8
$50 DD 1/1,6


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