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cakes44 08-25-2013 10:56 AM

I guess I'm not so sure that Palace Malice was clearly better than WTC in this race?

Perrault Robbed 08-25-2013 02:53 PM

i just do not see how anyone can justify that let em shine might have won yesterday with a better ride. if so, i guess every horse that ran yesterday could have won with a better ride. on as biased a track as you are going to see, let em shine absolutely had things his own way at belmont and was collared by the eighth pole. yesterday, a much superior animal in mentor crane ran him into the ground. as others have mentioned, was smith supposed to go into los alamitos 4.5 furlong mode and start whipping down the backside? logic leads anyone with a somewhat logical mnd that if you bet on let em shine it was a bad play, especially at his final odds.

jms62 08-25-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Perrault Robbed (Post 942315)
i just do not see how anyone can justify that let em shine might have won yesterday with a better ride. if so, i guess every horse that ran yesterday could have won with a better ride. on as biased a track as you are going to see, let em shine absolutely had things his own way at belmont and was collared by the eighth pole. yesterday, a much superior animal in mentor crane ran him into the ground. as others have mentioned, was smith supposed to go into los alamitos 4.5 furlong mode and start whipping down the backside? logic leads anyone with a somewhat logical mnd that if you bet on let em shine it was a bad play, especially at his final odds.

How can you say that considering until this race Saratoga was a virtual no passing zone? Logic would dictate that Let Em Shine would not be passed like so many before him on the day.

pweizer 08-25-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perrault Robbed (Post 942315)
i just do not see how anyone can justify that let em shine might have won yesterday with a better ride. if so, i guess every horse that ran yesterday could have won with a better ride. on as biased a track as you are going to see, let em shine absolutely had things his own way at belmont and was collared by the eighth pole. yesterday, a much superior animal in mentor crane ran him into the ground. as others have mentioned, was smith supposed to go into los alamitos 4.5 furlong mode and start whipping down the backside? logic leads anyone with a somewhat logical mnd that if you bet on let em shine it was a bad play, especially at his final odds.

I agree that Smith had a bad day, but I wonder if something went wrong with Let Em Shine. He is simply too fast early to have been outrun and packed in so quickly.

Paul

Scav 08-27-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pweizer (Post 942396)
I agree that Smith had a bad day, but I wonder if something went wrong with Let Em Shine. He is simply too fast early to have been outrun and packed in so quickly.

Paul

When do you ever see Mike Smith take it to anyone? He got out broke and decided to try and sit and pounce, only for him to learn that the horse is dead red and possibly over top


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