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with the amount of times he's been caught, you've got to wonder how often he cheats. the fact that many trainers have zero positives tells quite a tale as well. btw, if his position is that their testing is flawed, wouldn't it be popping multiple trainers? as for the milkshaking, since it's currently banned, i feel zero pity for those who use it. unlike lasix, it seems it has a masking quality and enhances performance. using something that's banned is an attempt to give yourself an edge that others won't have, as they won't break the rules. nor should they. |
I don't think the masking effect is firmly established, and, if it occurs, may only apply to some drugs and not others.
http://bit.ly/JJgpPH |
So based on the stats used by NYT, is Doug O'Neill basically the trainer version of Ruidoso Downs?
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Not sure why you used that on me, as I have a pretty solid understanding of sodium bicarbonate (I have read books on it's use in humans). You know what is kind of silly about the idea of using bicarbonates as a diuretic to flush drugs? It's that there is a really safe, common and totally legal substance that is a highly effective diuretic. It's called dihydrogen monoxide. Some will say it's dangerous stuff though, which you can read about here. I use this all the time however to increase urine output in myself. http://tinyurl.com/yhtm2aq |
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I'm going to go ahead and say that, rightly or wrongly, there are plenty of horses out there running with a chronic suspensory issue.
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I've done some more reading on this stuff I previously stated (in my post above) was a safe and effective diuretic, and I think I'm going to have to retract my earlier statement.
I cannot believe they give this stuff to horses after all! http://www.dhmo.org/truth/Dihydrogen-Monoxide.html |
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from the other lasix discussion begun yesterday, it appears there's no way to know when a horse will suffer a bleeding episode, and of course you'd also have no way of knowing the severity of a bleeding-since you don't know one's coming til it's there. imo, better to prevent an episode that may come, since there's no way to know ahead of time. we'd all be better off if we knew when things were going to happen! also, if a horse suddenly had an episode, the damage could be permanent. i feel it's better to err and prevent, than not use something that's available and be left with a lung-damaged horse. |
Now on the front page of Yahoo!: Derby-winning trainer's shady past
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I do know you have a lot of knowledge on some of these issues, so I was not implying to the contrary. My knowledge of drugs is lesser in scope, but perhaps more...hands on, but limited to humans. And cats. |
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I guess he didn't get the nickmame Drug O'Neill by mistake.
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I don't think I've ever been called either before, but I've been called worse. |
Some of the comments on that article are laughable. One person said something about Ferdinand, the "triple crown winner". Wow.
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Seabiscuit trainer Tom Smith's suspension the year before his Derby win with Jet Pilot:
http://www.governmentlaw.org/files/t..._tom_smith.pdf |
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