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Rudeboyelvis

12-27-2011 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 827594)

Chavez and Jose Espinoza would clean up at a place like Tampa. Alonso Quinonez would win the riding title by a landslide. Delgadillo would be dangerous if they carded some 870 yd races.

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 827596)

I don't disagree with any of that, especially this year. Weakest colony in quite some time.

Homemeister 7%, Luis Gonzalez 0%.... Daniel Coa 18%, The Guid, over 20%.... Over/Under on Centeno's return when they start riding 5 days a week? My bet is 5 minutes, give or take...

Quinonez would win the riding title here, I agree completely... Espinoza is as average as the rest of this colony - Delgadillo would improve with better horses IMO, but is no better than Mike Allen

PatCummings

12-27-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 827596)

I don't disagree with any of that, especially this year. Weakest colony in quite some time.

I'm shocked watching Tampa races seeing the number of jocks that still try to save ground on the far turn...the rail is death

GPK	12-27-2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 827598)

I'm sure you have had this convo with Bigs too, but The Guid has A LOT of Kent D. in him. If his horse has no shot, not a chance in hell he is riding to the line.

GPK	12-27-2011 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 827599)

I'm shocked watching Tampa races seeing the number of jocks that still try to save ground on the far turn...the rail is death

Over/Under on the % of them that can actually read a form?

Danzig

12-27-2011 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 827578)

Any other sport, an inexperienced athlete gets sent down to the minors to learn the game. There should be some sort of level of competence when riding horses in big circuits.

true.
of course if enough of his rides end up with horses getting taken down, he'll lose mounts in a hurry. but that doesn't help the owners, trainers, bettors. give him days if he's reckless. moving a horse up that doesn't deserve a better placing isn't exactly justified.

The Devil

12-28-2011 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 827567)

there needs to be protocol and it needs to be followed, with consequences for incorrect calls.

:$::tro:

Bigsmc

12-28-2011 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 827600)

I'm sure you have had this convo with Bigs too, but The Guid has A LOT of Kent D. in him. If his horse has no shot, not a chance in hell he is riding to the line.

:tro:

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 827601)

Over/Under on the % of them that can actually read a form?

10% and I'll take the under.

PatCummings

12-28-2011 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 827601)

Over/Under on the % of them that can actually read a form?

Who needs literacy when you could watch the replays of horses swimming, regularly, down at the rail...

PatCummings

12-28-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 827615)

Who needs literacy when you could watch the replays of horses swimming, regularly, down at the rail...

Today's 3rd race a perfect example as a 6-5 glued to the rail and a 9-5 off the rail run down by a 13-1 shot angled wide past the midpoint of the turn.

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