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slotdirt 11-10-2010 08:47 AM

Was that racing moment on Saturday any more electric than dozens of other horse racing moments that happen yearly? From a betting perspective, I get just as jazzed up about a head bob in the seventh at LRL as I did for the Classic the other night.

tector 11-10-2010 08:56 AM

I literally got goosebumps watching Goldikova, which is something for an old fart like me. Anything else had to be second.

Indian Charlie 11-10-2010 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tector (Post 721434)
Obviously. They put all their chips on red and it came up black. It isn't much harder than that to understand.

More like it came up 00 Green.

To say it came up black is to imply that if they ran the race 100 times, she'd only win 50% of the time, when clearly it would be a much higher winning percentage.

tector 11-10-2010 09:43 AM

Good point.

Sightseek 11-10-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 721400)
Actually, isn't it sort of the opposite? Shouldn't emotion be taken out of it?

Don't get me wrong, it was obviously a great racing moment, and while you didn't have to be at Churchill to feel it, I'm sure it was exponentially more electric being there. .

We all take our own perspective from things we read, see or hear based upon our experiences. To me, I thought the writer did a wonderful job in a few parts of the article expressing that moment when everyone at the track (regardless of background - whether they were a fan or bet on or against her) suddenly started cheering. I was surrounded by people who bet on Blame, I bet on Blame, but it was something that when she looked like she may just pull off you really, really wanted her to. I can't explain things like that, but I think it is cool when I read something by someone who can.

blackthroatedwind 11-10-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 721456)
We all take our own perspective from things we read, see or hear based upon our experiences. To me, I thought the writer did a wonderful job in a few parts of the article expressing that moment when everyone at the track (regardless of background - whether they were a fan or bet on or against her) suddenly started cheering. I was surrounded by people who bet on Blame, I bet on Blame, but it was something that when she looked like she may just pull off you really, really wanted her to. I can't explain things like that, but I think it is cool when I read something by someone who can.


I hope to forever remain ignorant of what it feels like to root against yourself.

Antitrust32 11-10-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tector (Post 721438)
I literally got goosebumps watching Goldikova, which is something for an old fart like me. Anything else had to be second.

I agree. While Zenyatta's race and the whole lead up to it was thrilling & awesome... biggest excitement of the day was Goldikova, hands down.

my miss storm cat 11-10-2010 10:56 AM

I did the same as a lot of people... bet Blame, rooted for Zenyatta.

The excitement of the day wasn't in question... it's the use of the word brilliant. That's what I disagree with.

One mans brilliant article is anothers drivel, I suppose.

It began with "you" :rolleyes: and read as if there were a contest to see just how wordy the thing could get.

Anyone on this forum would have written a more readable, make-you-feel-like-you-were-there kind account.

slotdirt 11-10-2010 12:40 PM

Here is another "brilliant" account from across a different pond. I like the below quote particularly:

“That’s the thing,” he said. “It doesn’t matter if she’s Horse of the Year or not. She’s THE horse of the last 40 years. Which one do you think people are going to remember?”

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...ar-debate.aspx

Antitrust32 11-10-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 721561)
Here is another "brilliant" account from across a different pond. I like the below quote particularly:

“That’s the thing,” he said. “It doesn’t matter if she’s Horse of the Year or not. She’s THE horse of the last 40 years. Which one do you think people are going to remember?”

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...ar-debate.aspx

there are lots of horses in the last 40 years that i'll remember before Zenyatta. And I only started following racing in 1996.

richard 11-10-2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 721483)
I did the same as a lot of people... bet Blame, rooted for Zenyatta.

This is getting confusing .

Arletta 11-10-2010 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 721483)
I did the same as a lot of people... bet Blame, rooted for Zenyatta.

The excitement of the day wasn't in question... it's the use of the word brilliant. That's what I disagree with.

One mans brilliant article is anothers drivel, I suppose.

It began with "you" :rolleyes: and read as if there were a contest to see just how wordy the thing could get.

Anyone on this forum would have written a more readable, make-you-feel-like-you-were-there kind account.

Fine work Gioia :)

Arletta 11-10-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by richard (Post 721634)
This is getting confusing .

It is? Naaaaaaaaaaa

DaTruth 11-11-2010 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 721561)
Here is another "brilliant" account from across a different pond. I like the below quote particularly:

“That’s the thing,” he said. “It doesn’t matter if she’s Horse of the Year or not. She’s THE horse of the last 40 years. Which one do you think people are going to remember?”

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...ar-debate.aspx

I think the British writers are enjoying it because they can take jabs at American racing. Have any of them written that Zenyatta is on par with, say, Dancing Brave or Brigadier Gerard?

Danzig 11-11-2010 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 721561)
Here is another "brilliant" account from across a different pond. I like the below quote particularly:

“That’s the thing,” he said. “It doesn’t matter if she’s Horse of the Year or not. She’s THE horse of the last 40 years. Which one do you think people are going to remember?”

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...ar-debate.aspx

that's a laugher. whoever wrote that must not have thought about how much is included in the last 40 years. people start throwing around things like that without really thinking about what it means.

slotdirt 11-11-2010 08:28 AM

Well, considering the last 40 years of worldwide horse racing includes three US Triple Crown winners, a three-time Melbourne Cup winner, one English Triple Crown winner, and dozens of other all-time greats (Spectacular Bid, Dancing Brave, etc.), I can't imagine the author really considered what the last 40 years would really mean in terms of great horses.

tector 11-11-2010 09:55 AM

Stop--you are bringing logic, reason, facts and actual history into the equation. All that matters is people feel good about something. Reality-based discussions are so 20th Century.

Dahoss 11-11-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 722034)
And if you had a moment with Mike Smith 30 years from now, no cameras or microphones around, he'd tell you that Holy Bull was the best horse he ever rode, right?

Running...you would hope so. Dancing...not so much.

DaTruth 11-11-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 722036)
Running...you would hope so. Dancing...not so much.

Cue it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvixU1BNrMA


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