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NTamm1215 06-29-2010 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 662974)
No I compared the circumstances, but incase someone thought I did, thank you for allowing me to clear that up.

I'm glad you cleared it up but I have no idea what the similarities are between the two. Seriously, think about what Quality Road has done in his career and think about what Dollar Bill did and see if you want to maintain the comparison.

NT

CSC 06-29-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 662971)
I love Z, I think she is a lot better then Rachel this year and would have won every single race Rachel won last year, but I think QR is a different breed, a different type of monster.

On his best day he can be, he seems to have his favorite spots to race, I'm not sure if CD will be one of them.

RockHardTen1985 06-29-2010 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 662983)
On his best day he can be, he seems to have his favorite spots to race, I'm not sure if CD will be one of them.

Favorite spots to race? Dude you are throwing **** out with no back up, your just making things up.


Aqueduct his favorite spot? Triple digit beyer first out....

Gulfstream? 4 giant races.....

Belmont? Giant run going 10f in a Grade 1 against a champion

Saratoga? Off a layoff and injury, he runs gigantic to turn back CCMC who comes right back to cross the line first in the Kings Bishop

So what one is his favorite?

CSC 06-29-2010 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 662981)
I'm glad you cleared it up but I have no idea what the similarities are between the two. Seriously, think about what Quality Road has done in his career and think about what Dollar Bill did and see if you want to maintain the comparison.

NT

It was self explanatory, it wasn't so much about comparing their race records but more to to about the way they were perceived. Hard Rock Ten thinks QR will be as effective at 1 1/4 as he was at 1 to 1 1/8. I'm not as sure based on what I have seen thus far, add on the low odds he always seems to attract, makes him hard to bet as a win candidate if one wants to look at the wagering angle down the line.

CSC 06-29-2010 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 662986)
Favorite spots to race? Dude you are throwing **** out with no back up, your just making things up.


Aqueduct his favorite spot? Triple digit beyer first out....

Gulfstream? 4 giant races.....

Belmont? Giant run going 10f in a Grade 1 against a champion

Saratoga? Off a layoff and injury, he runs gigantic to turn back CCMC who comes right back to cross the line first in the Kings Bishop

So what one is his favorite?

He runs big at Gulfstram and Belmont especially, and I am pretty sure the Kings Bishop was run over a very fast track that day, but I think you knew that.

NTamm1215 06-29-2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 662990)
It was self explanatory, it wasn't so much about comparing their race records but more to to about the way they were perceived. Hard Rock Ten thinks QR will be as effective at 1 1/4 as he was at 1 to 1 1/8. I'm not as sure based on what I have seen thus far, add on the low odds he always seems to attract, makes him hard to bet as a win candidate if one wants to look at the wagering angle down the line.

So you make an asinine comment comparing the obvious fanfare of a multiple GI winner to that of a hopeless plodder then back-pedal on your original assertion by no longer saying that QR can't win at 10fs but that you wouldn't bet on him?

NT

CSC 06-29-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 662992)
So you make an asinine comment comparing the obvious fanfare of a multiple GI winner to that of a hopeless plodder then back-pedal on your original assertion by no longer saying that QR can't win at 10fs but that you wouldn't bet on him?

NT

Yes.

RockHardTen1985 06-29-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 662993)
Yes.

Your out of control.

NTamm1215 06-29-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 662993)
Yes.

This :wf:wf would have just worked better.

NT

CSC 06-29-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 662994)
Your out of control.

About the Kings Bishop being run over a track yielding fast times or questioning if a board favorite will excel at 1 1/4? It's just outrageous isn't it?

RockHardTen1985 06-29-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 662997)
About the Kings Bishop being run over a track yielding fast times or questioning if a board favorite will excel at 1 1/4? It's just outrageous isn't it?

What the **** does the KB have to do with it, my point was that QR beat a horse who came right back 3 weeks later to run a winning race in a G1, why are you bringing it up as if QR ran in it?

CSC 06-29-2010 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 662996)
This :wf:wf would have just worked better.

NT

By the way I only agreed that the Dollar Bill analogy in it's context, as to some continuing to believe and I stress "continuing " since this is the common thread of Dollar Bill supporters was accurate as much as you tried to obfuscate the comparing of the 2. Nice try...but not quite. :wf

NTamm1215 06-29-2010 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 663001)
By the way I only agreed that the Dollar Bill analogy in it's context, as to some continuing to believe and I stress "continuing " since this is the common thread of Dollar Bill supporters was accurate as much as you tried to obfuscate the comparing of the 2. Nice try...but not quite. :wf

So now you're ready to admit you've been talking out of your ass with that idiotic comparison?

NT

Cannon Shell 06-29-2010 02:04 PM

What does this all have to do with some idiot running a horse off of a 7 year layoff?

my miss storm cat 06-29-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 663005)
What does this all have to do with some idiot running a horse off of a 7 year layoff?

:tro:

CSC 06-29-2010 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 663004)
So now you're ready to admit you've been talking out of your ass with that idiotic comparison?

NT

LOL what is this azz fetish of yours, your the one making azz comments. I explained it 2-3 times already. I don't know if I can make it clearer for you.

NTamm1215 06-29-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 663008)
:tro:

You're right, but its not my fault.;)

NT

RockHardTen1985 06-29-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 663009)
LOL what is this azz fetish of yours, your the one making azz comments. I explained it 2-3 times already. I don't know if I can make it clearer for you.

You explain nothing, you say so much but your really saying nothing... Its a bunch of BS, blah blah.... You ignore facts and say whatever fits your agenda.

CSC 06-29-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 663005)
What does this all have to do with some idiot running a horse off of a 7 year layoff?

Nothing, but if one questions if a horse(a board favorite) if they can get a distance, it becomes an interesting half hour of mud slinging of particular body parts. :D

Duvalier 06-29-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 663005)
What does this all have to do with some idiot running a horse off of a 7 year layoff?

Thanks Chuck


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