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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 662679)

Thanks.

Good channel too. Thanks for alerting me to it.

Could you convince NYRA to make a channel like this???

We give free access to our replays through our website and have for years.

We use our Youtube page for plenty of other stuff.

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 662684)

I have a hard time believing that is the best those horses could do. The times seem consistent with the Derby and the Oaks, but this one just seems off. I may have to do some hand timing, especially considering this isn't a distance that has been run since the same race the year prior.

CJ --- those horses royally suck.

The winner went 6 Beyer points slower than American Lion did in the Ill Derby - and AL had to run straight into a heavy head wind for the extra 1/16th. His other win this year was at Fonner Park.

Look at the horse who was 3rd in the race. Horrid.

I think the clear cut favorite in the betting was beaten like 26 lengths at Lone Star in a stake last time out.

The young chick who spams facebook with a combo of horse pics and quotes from things she says to her dog - she LOVED Brass Hat in the race... and he was like the 2nd choice even though he hasn't run on dirt in forever.

Slew's Tizzy isn't total garbage - but he was off like a 2 year layoff.

I don't know man ... I think anyone of the 3 different 3yo's from the 3yo male stakes would have had a good look in there.

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 662778)

CJ --- those horses royally suck.

I agree, and using only speed figures I can see how a 94 would look reasonable. But, the pace was average at best and it is highly unlikely in my opinion the winner would only run a 94 with those moderate fractions.

It is a tough call, and the pathetic last race on the card doesn't make it any easier.

I hear ya ... I'm not taking as techincal a view on it as you.

Do you think maybe the other route races that day should be a few points faster? I guess the two other stakes were won by lightly raced improving 3yo's

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 663264)

It is possible. The PrM races have a history of coming back weird for years now.