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dellinger63 05-13-2010 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 643417)
you both are correct. You are correct in the fact that these type of companies really need to be better prepared. Their "fail safe" measures werent exactly fail safe. It sucks that this happened. But coach is correct cause its us, the consumers, who will be screwed in the end because of this whole mess.


:tro::tro::tro::tro:

GBBob 05-13-2010 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 643417)
you both are correct. You are correct in the fact that these type of companies really need to be better prepared. Their "fail safe" measures werent exactly fail safe. It sucks that this happened. But coach is correct cause its us, the consumers, who will be screwed in the end because of this whole mess.

We deserve to be screwed..our love of oil causes all this..

dellinger63 05-13-2010 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 647250)
We deserve to be screwed..our love of oil causes all this..

Let them walk for subsidized health care? :)

timmgirvan 05-13-2010 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 647250)
We deserve to be screwed..our love of oil causes all this..

typical hand-wringing lib!:p

GBBob 05-13-2010 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan (Post 647267)
typical hand-wringing lib!:p

My hands aren't wringing..they are just "I told you so"

Smooth Operator 05-14-2010 12:36 PM

Yeah, you could tell from the early reports that this had the potential to become an environmental disaster of monumental proportions.




Some guy on the MarketWatch board wants to rename it the "Gulf of Cheney"...........................

MaTH716 05-14-2010 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 647425)
Yeah, you could tell from the early reports that this had the potential to become an environmental disaster of monumental proportions.




Some guy on the MarketWatch board wants to rename it the "Gulf of Cheney"...........................

Whoa, I thought El Presidente was on board about off shore drilling?

Smooth Operator 05-14-2010 12:50 PM

So did I, Mathman

hi_im_god 05-14-2010 12:51 PM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...gulf-oil-spill

Tony Hayward, the beleaguered chief executive of BP, has claimed its oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is "relatively tiny" compared with the "very big ocean".

he could have a big future doing pr for the catholic church if he ever leaves bp. he has the knack.

MaTH716 05-14-2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 647436)
So did I, Mathman

So wouldn't that make the Gulf of Cheney comment from the marketwatch guy a bit unfair?

Obama is now in favor of off shore drilling and there was an unfortunate accident. But somehow this is still the prior administrations fault.

Antitrust32 05-14-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 647445)
So wouldn't that make the Gulf of Cheney comment from the marketwatch guy a bit unfair?

Obama is now in favor of off shore drilling and there was an unfortunate accident. But somehow this is still the prior administrations fault.

Dont you know that everything is Bush's fault?

I never realized that one man could be so powerful that he single handidly ruined the world.

GBBob 05-14-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 647445)
So wouldn't that make the Gulf of Cheney comment from the marketwatch guy a bit unfair?

Obama is now in favor of off shore drilling and there was an unfortunate accident. But somehow this is still the prior administrations fault.

I think there is a distinction between the philosophy of many in the Right who want to drill everywhere and anywhere they can versus the very select and controlled space that Obama proposed. My personal feeling is that even Obama's proposal is too much, but to compare "Drill Baby, Drill" to what he proposed is a night and day difference.

GBBob 05-14-2010 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 647455)
Dont you know that everything is Bush's fault?

I never realized that one man could be so powerful that he single handidly ruined the world.

Fortunately, there are term limits;)

MaTH716 05-14-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 647459)
I think there is a distinction between the philosophy of many in the Right who want to drill everywhere and anywhere they can versus the very select and controlled space that Obama proposed. My personal feeling is that even Obama's proposal is too much, but to compare "Drill Baby, Drill" to what he proposed is a night and day difference.

I'm not arguing about the difference of philosophies. The point I was trying to make is that our current President does support off shore drilling. Maybe not to the extend of the prior administration, but he is still in favor of it. And to blame the Bush camp at this point is unjust. If you want to cast blame at anyone, how about at the people that caused it.

Antitrust32 05-14-2010 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 647459)
I think there is a distinction between the philosophy of many in the Right who want to drill everywhere and anywhere they can versus the very select and controlled space that Obama proposed. My personal feeling is that even Obama's proposal is too much, but to compare "Drill Baby, Drill" to what he proposed is a night and day difference.

Companies will be drilling in the Gulf no matter what America proposes. Then Cuba & Mexico will just take the Gulf's oil. It doesnt really matter.. we might as well not sit on the sidelines and watch others take the oil with the same chance of a spill.

miraja2 05-14-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 647459)
I think there is a distinction between the philosophy of many in the Right who want to drill everywhere and anywhere they can versus the very select and controlled space that Obama proposed. My personal feeling is that even Obama's proposal is too much, but to compare "Drill Baby, Drill" to what he proposed is a night and day difference.

You're right, but the morons chanting "drill baby drill" are simply too stupid and/or ignorant to know any better. The current administration should know better than continuing to support the expansion of this off-shore crap, but until this catastrophe they sure didn't behave as if they did.
Obviously no administration is at fault for what happened, but even though the catastrophe and the administration's policy announcement awhile back are unrelated, the spill should make some members of this administration feel like a bunch of dolts because, on this issue, that's how they were behaving.

Danzig 05-14-2010 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 647438)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...gulf-oil-spill

Tony Hayward, the beleaguered chief executive of BP, has claimed its oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is "relatively tiny" compared with the "very big ocean".

he could have a big future doing pr for the catholic church if he ever leaves bp. he has the knack.

:D

i see where the pope has moved on from child sexual abuse to condemning same sex marriage. he's on the ball. :rolleyes:

Coach Pants 05-16-2010 11:58 AM

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...ArKPqnF1Rrbheg

A hurricane late summer is what concerns me. Granted I'm not a scientist but one would think that the water temperature would be a few degrees higher in places.

If N.O. is hit with a hurricane it's going to be a disaster. They are half-assing the levees.

timmgirvan 05-16-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 647461)
Fortunately, there are term limits;)

Fortunately, there are ONE-TERMERS too!;)

Riot 05-18-2010 01:15 AM

Tar balls found on Key West beaches today.

Underwater oil plume estimated to be 10 miles long, 3 miles wide. Oil over one of five major deep coral reefs. Dead porpoises wash up on shore.

BP proud that they've inserted a 4-inch draft into a 20-inch pipe, collecting about a fifth of what is continuing to spill daily.


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