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Scav 03-08-2010 07:56 PM

Anyone want to watch real football, turn on the NFL network right now. Bears vs Packers in 1985. There was like 10 conduct penalties in the first quarter. It is awseome.

randallscott35 03-08-2010 07:57 PM

How bout this guy has 7 kids from 6 different women and he's 25? Holy ****, this guy is just throwing money away.

ateamstupid 03-08-2010 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
How bout this guy has 7 kids from 6 different women and he's 25? Holy ****, this guy is just throwing money away.

Jets had to front him $500k to deal with paternity suits before he went broke. He sounds like he's grown up a little bit though. I wish him well, obviously on the field, but off of it too.

randallscott35 03-08-2010 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Jets had to front him $500k to deal with paternity suits before he went broke. He sounds like he's grown up a little bit though. I wish him well, obviously on the field, but off of it too.

Which number kid by which number woman tells you he's grown up?

ateamstupid 03-08-2010 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Which number kid by which number woman tells you he's grown up?

I'm judging by what I've heard and seen from him since the trade. He's either been coached very well or he realizes he's been a dumbass and has to pay the consequences. He didn't run away from any questions, answered all of them about his kids/baby moms, the amount of which I thought was excessive BTW. I know you're happy Chris Henry died, but I don't automatically condemn dudes forever who grow up dirt poor and act foolishly when they first get money. I'd like to think I'd be more responsible if I became a millionaire overnight at 21, but I don't know for sure.

randallscott35 03-08-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I'm judging by what I've heard and seen from him since the trade. He's either been coached very well or he realizes he's been a dumbass and has to pay the consequences. He didn't run away from any questions, answered all of them about his kids/baby moms, the amount of which I thought was excessive BTW. I know you're happy Chris Henry died, but I don't automatically condemn dudes forever who grow up dirt poor and act foolishly when they first get money. I'd like to think I'd be more responsible if I became a millionaire overnight at 21, but I don't know for sure.

Oh stop. I just don't make excuses for people constantly.

miraja2 03-09-2010 06:39 AM

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Like I give a **** about that. Neither team has won anything since I've been watching football. I love it when people bring up Super Bowls from 90 years ago like that has relevance now.

True, but as a lifelong Dolphins' fan I am contractually obligated to bring up 1972 in any such discussion.

miraja2 03-09-2010 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Anyone want to watch real football, turn on the NFL network right now. Bears vs Packers in 1985. There was like 10 conduct penalties in the first quarter. It is awseome.

I am also obligated to bring up the game in which Marino and the boys absolutely destroyed the vaunted '85 Bears defense.

GPK 03-14-2010 07:51 PM

Ok Joey, get the Tomlinson avatar ready.

GBBob 03-14-2010 08:05 PM

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Ok Joey, get the Tomlinson avatar ready.

Good..no ViQueens

MaTH716 03-14-2010 08:10 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4994748

Not for anything but if they are paying Tomlinson 5 million and change, why didn't they just keep Thomas Jones (I think he was due 5-6 million)? I'm not trying to compare the two career wise, but TJ has been much better as of late. He was also one of the leaders of the team. I know Tomlinson is probably a future hall of famer, but I think they were better off keeping Thomas Jones.

ateamstupid 03-14-2010 08:31 PM

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4994748

Not for anything but if they are paying Tomlinson 5 million and change, why didn't they just keep Thomas Jones (I think he was due 5-6 million)? I'm not trying to compare the two career wise, but TJ has been much better as of late. He was also one of the leaders of the team. I know Tomlinson is probably a future hall of famer, but I think they were better off keeping Thomas Jones.

Jones wanted to be a starter more than he wanted to win. That's pretty clear by him going to the Chiefs. He wasn't going to accept less than 15 carries a game. Tomlinson appears more willing to accept a backup role.

MaTH716 03-14-2010 08:38 PM

Joey If you had your choice, who would you rather have next season. Tomlinson or TJ?

ateamstupid 03-14-2010 09:09 PM

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Joey If you had your choice, who would you rather have next season. Tomlinson or TJ?

It's close, but Tomlinson. You might say I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, but TJ was largely a product of the best run blocking O-Line in the NFL. LDT, meanwhile, ran behind one of the worst. It's a huge difference. Tomlinson's also a much better receiver than TJ is.

golfer 03-15-2010 05:52 AM

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It's close, but Tomlinson. You might say I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, but TJ was largely a product of the best run blocking O-Line in the NFL. LDT, meanwhile, ran behind one of the worst. It's a huge difference. Tomlinson's also a much better receiver than TJ is.

Exactly, although on the surface it seems like the role they have envisioned for him is the same as Leon Washington. Assuming Leon's health, it's going to take some creativity to get them all on the field.

MaTH716 03-15-2010 08:46 AM

Fair enough, also I just realized this morning that it's 5 million and change over 2 years (no including any clauses that might be in there). So there is a considerable savings opposed to TJ.
I'll admit, I used to love Tomlinson (especially in my football betting days when he was at TCU). But I lost alot of respect for him that year he sat out with a sprained ankle again the Pats in the AFC title game. While Drew Brees played with some sort of tear inside his knee. I know that I have no idea what the extent of his injury was, but I just thought he came across as being soft and it seems like he was never the same player after that.

The Indomitable DrugS 03-15-2010 09:32 AM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Complainian Tomlinson to the Jets!!!

The only player in the NFL who cries more than the Jets coach.

dalakhani 03-15-2010 09:50 AM

This move I didn't get. LT is d-o-n-e. Its not like that Charger line can't block. He just has lost too much to get there now. I didn't see the actual terms and I wonder how much is guaranteed.

I think this is a reach but we will see.

ateamstupid 03-15-2010 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
This move I didn't get. LT is d-o-n-e. Its not like that Charger line can't block. He just has lost too much to get there now. I didn't see the actual terms and I wonder how much is guaranteed.

I think this is a reach but we will see.

Yes it is.

Coach Pants 03-16-2010 04:23 PM

LT signs with Jets
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5000522

Meh.


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