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dpkovalesky 02-27-2010 05:05 PM
i was alive to 5 runners just not the 4, of course figuring turf. I guess the $50 win on the 4 was an okay saver, but would of loved to see that 9 finish in the lead.

DJARUM 02-27-2010 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ARyan
What is the rule on the Pick4 now at Gulfstream? Do they conso, or are we still stuck with those we were live too?
According to DRF after the race changes surfaces and wagering is closed, all selections are guaranteed winners. But that didn't happen, they paid the winner?

ARyan 02-27-2010 05:06 PM
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That is not correct.
I was alive with 4 runners going into the last race and did not have the winner as I was handicapping for grass.
I was alive to 3 horses as well, sucks to be us I guess.

ARyan 02-27-2010 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DJARUM
According to DRF after the race changes surfaces and wagering is closed, all selections are guaranteed winners. But that didn't happen, they paid the winner?
Got a link to that?

pick4 02-27-2010 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dpkovalesky
i was alive to 5 runners just not the 4, of course figuring turf. I guess the $50 win on the 4 was an okay saver, but would of loved to see that 9 finish in the lead.

As much as people bitch and moan about NYRA at least the pick 4 and pick 6 policy for off the turf races is right on target.

ARyan 02-27-2010 05:07 PM
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As much as people bitch and moan about NYRA at least the pick 4 and pick 6 policy for off the turf races is right on target.
Agreed.

DJARUM 02-27-2010 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ARyan
Got a link to that?
It's a copyright http://www.drf.com/toteboard/alltrac...GPM&MAXRACE=10,
Bottom of the tote.....

pick4 02-27-2010 05:13 PM
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I was alive to 3 horses as well, sucks to be us I guess.
Who knows what would have happened if they stayed on the turf. I played the winner to win after the race was switched to the main and it covered the p4 wager.

Kasept 02-27-2010 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DJARUM
According to DRF after the race changes surfaces and wagering is closed, all selections are guaranteed winners. But that didn't happen, they paid the winner?
Florida wagering laws.

ARyan 02-27-2010 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pick4
Who knows what would have happened if they stayed on the turf. I played the winner to win after the race was switched to the main and it covered the p4 wager.
Agreed, we do not know who would have won, but I would have been much happier having it play out on the surface I bet it ad handicapped it on, than having it switched to dirt minutes before post.

pointman 02-27-2010 05:19 PM
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Wow. Once again Gulfstream takes a race off the turf as the horses go to the track... :wf

The place is an embarrassment.
What is that all about? I got screwed as I punched my tickets already. I almost played a backup pk4 ticket singling the 5 in the first leg which I would have been live to the 2,11 in the finale. I would be steaming right now if they took that off and I was holding a live pk4 ticket, the fact that they don't pay all is absolutely insane. :wf

pick4 02-27-2010 05:36 PM
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Agreed, we do not know who would have won, but I would have been much happier having it play out on the surface I bet it ad handicapped it on, than having it switched to dirt minutes before post.
I agree with everything you just said. But I've had plenty of bad beats and I've learned it's not worth getting angry over them. It's easy to forget the lucky trips or circumstances that occur in a horse race. It stinks that the race was switched to the main track but we're wagering on a game of chance and stuff lke that happens.

Sightseek 02-28-2010 07:46 AM
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Speaking of Santa Anita, Frank Stronach is in California and will be meeting with Ron Charles and company about the impending decision on a new main track surface. Increasingly, the mercurial Austrian-Canadian appears like a Mel Brooks-film character on acid, and is now mumbling about another attempt at a synthetic cake frosting for the main track, this time something that sounds like a version of Fibresand as discussed by Steve Crist yesterday. This of course comes after a majority of interested parties were thrilled at the prospect of a new dirt track at the Great Race Place. Stay tuned...
Some things Stronach manages to do so well though, breeds good horses, keeps them in training longer than most, he built a beautiful recreational facility for the farm employees and his retirement program for retired race horses is really outstanding: http://www.adenaretirement.com/

Kasept 02-28-2010 07:55 AM
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Some things Stronach manages to do so well though, breeds good horses, keeps them in training longer than most, he built a beautiful recreational facility for the farm employees and his retirement program for retired race horses is really outstanding: http://www.adenaretirement.com/
If we're handing out bon mots to Stronachs, be aware that his ever-lovin' and long-suffering wife is responsible for the equine retirement program and a lot of the charitable treatment of MEC employees. That kind of time commitment would take away from Frank's skirt chasing...

Gaelic Storm 02-28-2010 09:06 AM
I looked quick to see who ran the fastest mile at Gulfstream yesterday and it looked like Miner's Reserve, but they had no fractions listed for the race just a 135.87 final time. I watched a replay of the race and saw a first quarter of 24.03 then no fractional times the rest of the race. I am wondering how legit the 94 Beyer is. I didn't think it started raining until after the 8th but I am probably wrong because Amen Hallelujah got a 100 beyer and Radiohead ran over a second faster and got a 94 si I guess the track slowed down?


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