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CSC 08-29-2009 04:17 PM
I bet VH and am not too confident he wil stay up.

TheSpyder 08-29-2009 04:19 PM
No way. Garcia even got off him knowing there won't be any picture today. Too bad, I had him too.
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Originally Posted by CSC
I bet VH and am not too confident he wil stay up.

jwkniska 08-29-2009 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Win or lose, that was a huge effort by Vineyard Haven.

Oh yeah, he's gotta come down.
I agree on both... especially since had Capt!

CSC 08-29-2009 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
No way. Garcia even got off him knowing there won't be any picture today. Too bad, I had him too.
Yeah it's too bad, he would have won IMO, he wasn't letting Candyman go by without a fight. It was the right call for a change by these stewards. Trust me I've been on the wrong end of many of their calls, this one was a good call.

pdrift1 08-29-2009 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CSC
Yeah it's too bad, he would have won IMO, he wasn't letting Candyman go by without a fight. It was the right call for a change by these stewards. Trust me I've been on the wrong end of many of their calls, this one was a good call.
it is to bad he couldn't keep a straight path. vh was going to win this if he wouldn't have came over. he wasn't letting him by even by the look of the head on

herkhorse 08-29-2009 04:37 PM
I think Summer Bird wins the Travers, and Tim Ice sits in w/ Byk for the rest of the meet.

DaTruth 08-29-2009 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
What La-bred?!
Maybe Milwaukee Miracle, although the distance might be a little short for him. :)

CSC 08-29-2009 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by herkhorse
I think Summer Bird wins the Travers, and Tim Ice sits in w/ Byk for the rest of the meet.
I bet Kent D gives him a horrible ride...;)

CSC 08-29-2009 04:53 PM
He was much the best...regardless of who rode him today.

pdrift1 08-29-2009 04:54 PM
summer bird nice win. and looking good !!!!! well RA looks real good after this:)

CSC 08-29-2009 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
This is a nuts conclusion. I bet Hold Me Back in the Derby, he put in a nifty middle move down the backstretch which was obviously a bit too early. He's never run a big race on dirt but if you consider his move in the Derby, I think he can handle it.

To me the Travers this year is: Can Quality Road handle the stretch-out off little races? And if not, who can jump-up? On Beyers, Summer Bird and Kensei fit the jump-up model. But I don't know if Kensei wants 10 furlongs with his A-game, and Summer Bird, though a useful horse, would have been fourth in the Belmont if it were at 10 furlongs. And in the Haskell, he beat-out Munnings who was obviously out of his comfort zone.

So, while both Summer Bird and Kensei could win, I can't get too excited about betting either of them at shorter prices. And Quality Road in my opinion is one of the most talented horses we've seen in a while, but he's really up against it today.

So, why not take a stab and have some fun? I'm not certainly not taking out a loan against my dog, but he'll be a price on a crazy, wet day.

Enjoy everyone!
Good call Travis on the 2nd place finisher, hope u nailed the exacta.

King Glorious 08-29-2009 04:56 PM
I wonder how many people had posts typed out about how Kent was riding a horrible race when he was in front of Quality Road so early. About how he was moving to early, etc. He was a dominant winner. He's the champion 3yo colt.

King Glorious 08-29-2009 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CSC
Good call Travis on the 2nd place finisher, hope u nailed the exacta.
Don't you have to have a winner and second place finisher to have the exacta?

Travis Stone 08-29-2009 04:59 PM
If there's a LA Downs God, he'll let Summer Bird come out of this race a-okay and come here and show our fans how good he is in the Super Derby.

King Glorious 08-29-2009 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
If there's a LA Downs God, he'll let Summer Bird come out of this race a-okay and come here and show our fans how good he is in the Super Derby.
By the way, that was a good call on Hold Me Back. I couldn't give him a chance even now, knowing he just ran second.

I think he'd have to be at the Super Derby.

Travis Stone 08-29-2009 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Don't you have to have a winner and second place finisher to have the exacta?
I think so, but let me check back with you.

CSC 08-29-2009 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pdrift1
summer bird nice win. and looking good !!!!! well RA looks real good after this:)
He's showing some verstility also, he's not just a stone cold closer as some mistakeningly think he is, with blinkers it should be no surprise he has more early speed than most give him credit for. That brings me back to a point I have been trying to make over and over after his Belmont win, he COULD HAVE WON by more if Kent D wanted him closer. Some just don't want to see that and keep on insisting that MTB was the best horse in the Belmont but that is erroneous slanted type of thinking if you ask me.

Cannon Shell 08-29-2009 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
If there's a LA Downs God, he'll let Summer Bird come out of this race a-okay and come here and show our fans how good he is in the Super Derby.
You would think that would be the logical next step.

So much for Kensai/Quality Road's championship hopes. Thank God.

Cannon Shell 08-29-2009 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CSC
He's showing some verstility also, he's not just a stone cold closer as some mistakeningly think he is, with blinkers it should be no surprise he has more early speed than most give him credit for. That brings me back to a point I have been trying to make over and over after his Belmont win, he COULD HAVE WON by more if Kent D wanted him closer. Some just don't want to see that and keep on insisting that MTB was the best horse in the Belmont but that is erroneous slanted type of thinking if you ask me.
He won races with the worst non-bug rider in America, he basically had no rider for his first 5 races

CSC 08-29-2009 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Don't you have to have a winner and second place finisher to have the exacta?
No, I just bet SB to win. Not to get too personal but it was a good amount of change.


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