Originally Posted by Danzig

what if it was two starts ago? three? just seems that people don't go over a horse with a fine toothed comb til they lose. war emblem ran with chips, so did mineshaft. didn't rachel not vet out because of a chip?

i just think it's interesting they say they don't know when it occured-so how do you know when it had an affect?

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Not sure why people who dont actually spend any money buying horses or trying to win races feel the need to knock those that do regardless of the amount of money spent. I doubt that Sheik Mo loses any sleep over not winning the Derby or that you find amusement in it. As proven again this year it is sometimes a fluky race that produces strange results.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Obviously it didn't show outward effects till afterwards so it would be logical to assume it happened in the race. Surely you understand that a chip can vary in seriousness depending on location, size, shape, etc.

Originally Posted by Danzig

you're going to be accused of being a sycophant and apologist shortly.

Originally Posted by Danzig

yes, i know. i found their wordplay more interesting than anything i suppose.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

As bad as some of the others ran I am surprised he is the only one injured coming out of the race.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I bet Regal Ransom. Dummy may also be appropriate.

Originally Posted by Danzig

a lot of injuries to peoples' pride...

dunkirk and friesan fire supposedly both had hoof injuries, scrapes, etc. but thankfully nothing too bad. looks like the only possible retirement coming up would be i want revenge. hopefully they'll give him time, and he comes back same as before.

Originally Posted by Danzig

i thought his chances were improved when i saw it had rained, but that track was a mess.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Fresian Fire and Dunkirk didn't look great going in and any supposed injuries they have you can take with a grain of salt. I hope I want revenge has a nice life at stud in New Mexico.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's funny tho that all those folks giving me crap for saying dunkirk shouldn't go have left me alone since saturday.
but i'm pretty much waiting for all of them to run again before i think they're all meant to stand stud in new mexico.

Originally Posted by Cardus

A) The need to knock someone spending what is considered to be an exorbitant amount of money (relatively) on yearlings, two-year-olds in training, and on purchases of stylish two-year-old maiden winners is the "Yankees Syndrome," and as a baseball fan, you know what I mean. To me, if Godolphin merely outlasts others at the sales -- and overwhelms those with two-year-olds maiden winners unable to resist, which, according to here, is the entirety of the horse-owning world -- then it is bound to win the Derby sometime, and the accomplishment is diminished.

B) If Shake Mo doesn't lose sleep over not winning the Derby, then he has done a tremendous job of conning the world-wide racing media into believing that he is a horseman of the finest order. If that is not the case, then perhaps the world-wide racing media has engaged in a collective act of journalistic license. For years now, I have read that the Derby and the Melbourne Cup have been Shake Mo's obsession as an owner.

C) I am not a fan of the Godolphin crowd for multiple reasons, but I do not see it as unreasonable for those to jump on it for the amount of money that it has spent in pursuit of the Derby. If only those who spend even remotely similar amounts of money than that of Godolphin could comment on its spending to win a Derby.. well, then no one could comment.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

The entire forum was wrong about the Derby, including you.

Originally Posted by Cardus

B) If Shake Mo doesn't lose sleep over not winning the Derby, then he has done a tremendous job of conning the world-wide racing media into believing that he is a horseman of the finest order. If that is not the case, then perhaps the world-wide racing media has engaged in a collective act of journalistic license. For years now, I have read that the Derby and the Melbourne Cup have been Shake Mo's obsession as an owner.

Originally Posted by Linny

The US writers that cover such things have told you (and all of us) that Indian Charlie is obsessed with Scat Porn but it is probably not true. Does he want to download it? Yes. Is it what he lives and breathes for? NO!