The nice guy I am ... I stop my Jazil bashing for a full month ... and you re-pay me with this?

um, kissy?

Really, you liked Rock Hard Ten?

what's not to like?

Jason Orman could stop the Patriots.

Was that intended to help or hurt your case?

I don't think he would have even beat Flower Alley had he made it to the Classic.

How doesn't it help his case? Look what Mandella did with that horse.....

Can you honestly say that through their 4yo seasons he was any faster than this guy?

http://www.drf.com/row/pps/funnycide.pdf

Where did Drugs bring Funny Cide into this equation?

I'm not disagreeing he moved the horse up, I just don't think the horse was that good and am surprised Drugs liked him.

Well dang, darlin, that just makes the statement worse. I happen to think there are some pretty good people down here!

Man, you got a pet gator?? We can only 'ford one to pull the boat to take us to town...dang u must me from the good side of the swamp. I's got me a pet coon, and my ma dun got her a fancy ole pet cur dog. What u gonna do wit all that fancy edumacation? Ma said all that fancy edumacation just makes ya act all high and mighty and thank u no thangs u dont know.....I'm just saying :D

He's had an irrational love of RHT since the day he debuted. I never understood it either and it's best to just humor him.

For the record I was just busting chops before.

It was intended to show that he was not some bigtime overrated horse.

He did survive Orman's handling of him and go undefeated in four Graded Stake races ranging from distances of 7 furlongs to 10 furlongs before retiring with an injury.

In those four races, he beat name horses like Saint Liam, Lava Man, Borrego, Choctaw Nation, Roman Ruler, Imperialisim etc.

He had enough raw speed to win sprinting on debut with a 101 Beyer - he won a Grade 1 sprinting against the grain and off the layoff at SA. He certainly had stamina as well.

Probably would have been an awfully good synthetic track horse with the big time turf pedigree he had ... excellent turf sire & dam was a champ in Europe.

Plus, he was one of about 74 different horses where Gary Stevens publicly said "this is the best horse I ever rode."

You forgot the part where he lost to My Snookie's Boy....badly.

Perhaps.

He wasn't a very good shipper. Big horse, with a big attitude, who always held up the start.

Though, he only shipped in his races for Orman and not Mandella. So there could be something to that.

If you judge him strictly on his California form and disregard his 3 long trips East ... he's a pretty solid and consistant horse.

When speaking of horses who won GI races from 7 to 10 furlongs, I think Congaree is largely forgotten. His game also traveled, but when he threw in a bad one, it sure was ugly.

NT

A lot of people had an irrational fascination with Rock Hard Ten back in 2005; I don't DrugSy was alone in that regard. Why the hate for Rock Hard Ten though? There are worse GI winners out there, far worse.

Congaree was certainly a better horse than RHT. He was pretty close to unbeatable when he was at his absolute best.