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Riot 03-18-2009 08:31 PM

"As the year progressed, a series of life-threatening problems within many of the world’s great financial institutions was unveiled. This led to a dysfunctional credit market that in important respects soon turned non-functional. The watchword throughout the country became the creed I saw on restaurant walls when I was young: “In God we trust; all others pay cash.”

"By the fourth quarter, the credit crisis, coupled with tumbling home and stock prices, had produced a paralyzing fear that engulfed the country. A freefall in business activity ensued, accelerating at a pace that I have never before witnessed. The U.S. – and much of the world – became trapped in a vicious negative-feedback cycle. Fear led to business contraction, and that in turn led to even greater fear."

"This debilitating spiral has spurred our government to take massive action. In poker terms, the Treasury and the Fed have gone “all in.” Economic medicine that was previously meted out by the cupful has recently been dispensed by the barrel. These once-unthinkable dosages will almost certainly bring on unwelcome aftereffects. Their precise nature is anyone’s guess, though one likely consequence is an onslaught of inflation. Moreover, major industries have become dependent on Federal assistance, and they will be followed by cities and states bearing mind-boggling requests. Weaning these entities from the public teat will be a political challenge. They won’t leave willingly."

"Whatever the downsides may be, strong and immediate action by government was essential last year if the financial system was to avoid a total breakdown. Had one occurred, the consequences for every area of our economy would have been cataclysmic. Like it or not, the inhabitants of Wall Street, Main Street and the various Side Streets of America were all in the same boat."

- Warren Buffett, excerpt from letter to the shareholders of Berkshire Hathaway Inc., February 27, 2009

Coach Pants 03-18-2009 09:20 PM

Ohh the oracle!! Well then all is forgiven!! It's not like he's ever been to Washington with his hand out. :rolleyes:

Smooth Operator 03-19-2009 08:00 AM

Gunna take some time to change the culture of greed and corruption that flourished on Wall Street during the Bush-Cheney (woo-hoo! regulation schmegulation) party years...

dellinger63 03-19-2009 08:03 AM

Who's fault are the bonuses?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aT_tMXRy2vDs

Obama says he's taking responsibility for it so I guess that qualifies as F up 70 something.

dellinger63 03-19-2009 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
Gunna take some time to change the culture of greed and corruption that flourished on Wall Street during the Bush-Cheney (woo-hoo! regulation schmegulation) party years...

is that the change he's been talking about?
LMAO Michelle will go through her 'change' before the President does.

Smooth Operator 03-19-2009 08:17 AM

Seriously doubt BO can handle it himself, dellinger.

May need divine intervention to clean up this colossal economic mess from eight years (woo-hoo!) of Bush-Cheney...

gales0678 03-19-2009 08:18 AM

chris dodd from CT , get a home mortgage lower than any of us can get, get oddles of cash from AIG , he is from CT , Aig FP is from ct .... he has 2 stories know about the retention bonuses - what gives folks?

gales0678 03-19-2009 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
Seriously doubt BO can handle it himself, dellinger.

May need divine intervention to clean up this colossal economic mess from eight years (woo-hoo!) of Bush-Cheney...


the funny thing about this the deregualtion occured before bush came to wash , and a former sec of tresaury went to citibank and walked away with 100mm + , and now citibank is at 1.50 a share but all that seems to get forgotten

dellinger63 03-19-2009 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
Seriously doubt BO can handle it himself, dellinger.

May need divine intervention to clean up this colossal economic mess from eight years (woo-hoo!) of Bush-Cheney...

Boy I hate to recap but feeling good today so for you I offer this....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

Danzig 03-19-2009 10:50 AM

aig not the only one paying bonuses:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123739512036672809.html

Smooth Operator 03-19-2009 12:57 PM

Can't access u-tube here, dellinger.


What is it? ... some old lady who got burned in the stock market throwing her shoes at Bush? lol

dellinger63 03-19-2009 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
Can't access u-tube here, dellinger.


What is it? ... some old lady who got burned in the stock market throwing her shoes at Bush? lol

yep

Riot 03-19-2009 10:16 PM

Quote:

Palin rejects nearly 30% of stimulus
JUNEAU, Alaska (AP) — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin says she will accept just 69% of the estimated $930 million in federal stimulus funds that could flow to the state.

Palin's original announcement Thursday that she was accepting just over half the stimulus package funds did not include $128 million in Medicaid stimulus money she is accepting.

The former vice presidential candidate says she will accept only money without strings that will bind the state later. It's up to the Legislature to weigh in on the rest of the package.
So - Palin can't count accurately (well, 69% is sorta like "just over half", except it's not), and she only wants money from us she doesn't have to account for.

dellinger63 03-20-2009 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
So - Palin can't count accurately (well, 69% is sorta like "just over half", except it's not), and she only wants money from us she doesn't have to account for.

Let's try and go slow so we only have to do this once. 69% of 930 million is 642 million. Now subtract the 128 million for Medicare and you get 514 million. Half of 930 is 465 so in reality the MILF from Alaska is off 50% by 49 million which, in effect is 55% or a little more than half of what the Fed is offering. So be happy she has kicked back almost $300 million and the knowledge she can count and be elected to the State's highest office with the votes of a male majority. Oh I forgot she's republican and tryng to be responsible to her State so she's an evil moron.

ArlJim78 03-20-2009 10:43 AM

how shocking, who knew that Palin was a fiscal conservative and would not want the long tentacles from Washington dictating how the state is run.
how dare she run her state in a responsible way.
:zz:

dellinger63 03-20-2009 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
how shocking, who knew that Palin was a fiscal conservative and would not want the long tentacles from Washington dictating how the state is run.
how dare she run her state in a responsible way.
:zz:

and can count

Cannon Shell 03-21-2009 09:10 PM

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123759827524401409.html

Riot 03-21-2009 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63
Let's try and go slow so we only have to do this once.

Sarah: "I'm only accepting a little over 50% of the bailout!"

Aid: "Psst Gov - no, no, we WANT that 128 mil in Medicare, too".

Sarah: "I'm only accepting 69% of the bailout!"


Palin, the "responsible fiscal conservative"? - what has happened to the state budget in Alaska since she's been Gov?

"The former vice presidential candidate says she will accept only money without strings that will bind the state later."

Then I'll eagerly be waiting to see her veto the rest, after her legislature accepts it.

Yes - Palin wants the unexpected free federal money winfall, but just like AIG, she doesn't want to be held accountable to the Feds for what she does with it.

Danzig 03-21-2009 09:46 PM

no money as yet has been distributed, correct? but the last two weeks the market has done better than in months.

i think they should rescind the vote, the money-we can't afford the cure for what ails us. in this case, the cure is worse than the disease. trillion dollar deficits for years-how exactly does that help us long term? or even short term for that matter????

how exactly did we recover from every other recession, as i don't recall votes or hysteria like this in the past?


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